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| Quote ="bdrhino"I have no insider knowledge but for me if this wasnt true then someone/the club would have put this rumour to bed.maybe he'll stay because he can't get a job in Australia but I personally doubt we'll see him again.Obviously hope I'm wrong.'" why would the club get involved in what is a rumour on here.......
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| A rumour spreads and the club are continually asked questions about it.Eventually they confirm or deny it.I saw an interview with sinfield in the last 5 to 6 weeks where he did exactly that.Plus,peter smith would have probably have tweeted something by now to deny it (I assume he hasn't).
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| Ava probably just reached tone to make the best decision. Must he hard if partner hasn't stopped here. If he gets, an NRL offer who could blame him for not coming back. If no offer it will be fine back or retire...
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| Zane, Oledski, Holroyd and Ava would be a very handy front row indeed. 3 year contract (in theory) means I guess we see Zane as being a cornerstone of the pack while the younger players are developing. He looks aggressive and may well be a good influence on the pack.
Would be good to see one or two more coming through.
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| Anyone seen any details as to whether he’s a marquee signing or not? Can’t see anything in the announcement or from Pete Smith
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Anyone seen any details as to whether he’s a marquee signing or not? Can’t see anything in the announcement or from Pete Smith'"
£220k a year apparantly so marquee thats according to Matthew Shaw of League Express
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| Marquee is not about how much they get paid, it’s about how much of it counts on the cap. When we have a largely young team, and quite a small squad, it’s inevitable that some players will be on high salaries.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Marquee is not about how much they get paid, it’s about how much of it counts on the cap. When we have a largely young team, and quite a small squad, it’s inevitable that some players will be on high salaries.'"
True but how many teams would pay over the marquee amount and not class it as marquee?
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| Ava was getting up to some good minutes at his best this year can tetevano do reasonable shifts?
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| We shouldn't get too hung up on whether somebody is marquee or not. This year the cap is 2.1 million. Your squad has to fit within that but, you can exceed that figure with payments to a maximum of two players if they are paid over 175k. So if Tetavano is 200k, 25k of his wage might be marquee money. However, when you consider the wages we have offloaded this year its possible, even probable, that we are under the limit even with Tetavano. I think that is how it works.
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| We had plenty of cap space when Merrin left and a few more have gone since. Even when you take into account Tetevano coming in and a handful of contract upgrades we must surely still have plenty left. At £220k that’s good value for a top line NRL forward in his prime. A lot of NRL fans are giving Penrith some real stick for him leaving, they see it as a big loss which tells you something
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"True but how many teams would pay over the marquee amount and not class it as marquee?'"
Depends how many you have. Wigan were allegedly paying wages to Hastings, Burgess and French that would qualify as Marquee. If you’ve only got two it’s obvious, but you can have more.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"True but how many teams would pay over the marquee amount and not class it as marquee?'"
No need to declare it as a marquee signing if room already on the cap. Technically speaking you could sign 5 players on 400k per annum & still have a squad under the cap. You declare 2 as marquee players.
Personally scrap the marquee rule & just increase the base salary cap substantially.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Zane, Oledski, Holroyd and Ava would be a very handy front row indeed. 3 year contract (in theory) means I guess we see Zane as being a cornerstone of the pack while the younger players are developing. He looks aggressive and may well be a good influence on the pack.
Would be good to see one or two more coming through.'"
Prior as well although 13 seems his best position to start but spells in the front row. Plus Thompson and Donaldson can spell there if required. Maybe we could see Hurrell put a shift in there as well, think ultimately he will end up moving i to the pack at some point.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Goodness me look at that nonsense above. Merry Christmas one n all.'"
My apologies did not mean to cause beef, had a few, and i men’t for it to be a bit of a polite Joke. It just bugs me when people get this wrong in todays day and age, but so does Burrowsss (Burrow) and Dr Spock (mr Spock)
And don't get me started on Frankenstein.
He is a pacific islander though.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"True but how many teams would pay over the marquee amount and not class it as marquee?'"
We can declare him marquee at any time in the future as long as we do not go over the total cap. If we do end up moving him onto marquee gives us £70k (if he us on £220k) to bring in 1-2 other players if required over the next 2 seasons. Makes sense to keep a marquee spit open in case real high quality player comes along mid season.
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| Ava has been allowed to look for a club back in Australia. If he finds a club he won’t be back.
His girlfriend wants him back in Australia to brink up their family together.
It must be an awful decision to have to make. He performed well last season, he was getting some great reviews, fans were talking highly of him, yet his girlfriend wants to stay in Australia and she wants him to be there.
He is in a no win situation, he has a job here for a few years, no guarantee of a top team at home and a girlfriend who wants him to stay with her. Let’s see what happens.
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| That explains her very public post on social media where she made it plainly clear she couldn’t wait to go back. Be v surprised to see him back here. They’ve some big decisions to make
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| Quote ="Brodie123"Ava has been allowed to look for a club back in Australia. If he finds a club he won’t be back.
His girlfriend wants him back in Australia to brink up their family together.
It must be an awful decision to have to make. He performed well last season, he was getting some great reviews, fans were talking highly of him, yet his girlfriend wants to stay in Australia and she wants him to be there.
He is in a no win situation, he has a job here for a few years, no guarantee of a top team at home and a girlfriend who wants him to stay with her. Let’s see what happens.'"
His girlfriend has been over here with him, it’s his ex girlfriend and daughter that is over there. His girlfriend is homesick.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Prior as well although 13 seems his best position to start but spells in the front row. Plus Thompson and Donaldson can spell there if required. Maybe we could see Hurrell put a shift in there as well, think ultimately he will end up moving i to the pack at some point.'"
Might as well get Hall back to play 2nd row then with Hurrell
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| I will always bow to agar's and sinfield's superior knowledge, but I will be very worried if hurrell was an option in the second row.hall in the second row would've been even dafter in my opinion.
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| Spot on why play our most likely to cause havoc in the forwards?
He would probably drop more ball in the pack when tackled anyway.
Leave him at RC with Sutcliffe filling in on the left until Newman is fit.
If Ava goes we need another Ava so to speak plus one more maybe from Fev or get Battye signed up to do the hard graft.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Spot on why play our most likely to cause havoc in the forwards?
He would probably drop more ball in the pack when tackled anyway.
Leave him at RC with Sutcliffe filling in on the left until Newman is fit.
If Ava goes we need another Ava so to speak plus one more maybe from Fev or get Battye signed up to do the hard graft.'" Agreed Sutcliffe should be used as cover for centre and back row.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Agreed Sutcliffe should be used as cover for centre and back row.'"
I do believe that agar is genuinely interested in Sutcliffe being permanent centre and Hurrell in the second row
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