Im sure when the club signed the players you are talking about Jim it was done so in the hope they would work out. There is always a risk with every signing.

Can anyone blame GH for signing a superstar like Brett Mullins? But it didnt work out. You cant hit home runs with every buy. Plenty of our signings have failed even in our golden era.

We cant go into next year with the props and hookers we currently have.

Ash Handley will be playing against PNG



But yes your point still stands, we’ve actually shed a lot more players than I thought in such a short time, it’s obviously clear that Sinfield knows the squad isn’t where it should be.

I don’t expect to win anything next year (maybe bar a decent cup run) but we need to start better and try stay away from the relegation zone at all costs

When Marrin took over as captain after Watkins left we had a 60% win ratio, if we had kept that up all season it would of been good enough for 5th

Id take that tbh.
Re-Sinfield lets hope he stays away from the poundland & past it signings as well now because he added others to the deadweight we were already carrying last year.

If you look at the squads Wigan, Wire, Saints and Hull have established, we are some way off still.

I'm actually pretty positive about the direction we're moving in now, but my word there has been an intensive care job over the past couple of years.

Personally think as it stands we are a squad that sits about middle tier at best right now.Those teams you quoted should be head and shoulders above the rest but then you have most of the rest of the league who should feel that 5th spot is attainable. As LionArmour alluded to though; it is a fine line between that spot and the bottom of table and relegation especially if Toronto are competitive which it looks like they will be.

I can't see Toronto being bottom come the end of next season.

Wouldn't be surprised if Salford's halo slipped a bit and HKR don't look crash hot at this point.

In that context a solid signing like Prior makes sense I guess. If Singleton is also going, I can't see us not signing another prop.

We need some real physicality.

To be honest, I think a great deal depends on who comes in between now and the start of the season. As things stand, we look weak up front and short of a good hooker. We should be stronger in the halves but until we stiffen up that pack that might mean little. If we run with what we currently have I think our name should definitely be included in the list of possibles for bottom four.

and of course the jury istill out on us

The squad as it stands is definitely bottom half of the table stuff, but it's likely injuries will play a large part in who is involved in the relegation battle. If we bring in a good prop and hooker, we can challenge for top 5 (I don't expect we get past the first round if we make it).

A winger would be nice, but perhaps this is an area where we can blood a younger player? Others will know if there's anyone even close to ready.

What we need more than anything is to utilise the players we have much more when we have the ball. Give Konny the ball early in space and he'll run riot. Get runners moving in all directions off Gale and give him options to play with and we become much more dangerous. Our concentration levels need to go up ten fold...

Without the ball we need to apply ourselves much more than we did last year, it got better, but you never felt like the other team couldn't score against us. We need that toughness back in our defence, and that's about attitude and application, not this specific player or that one.

I'd still like to see a Prop, a Hooker and a Winger coming in, all of starting quality.

I do think Ferres leaving is a positive for the club - the salary is needed elsewhere.

We are clearly in for a prop already, and I'd expect us to make a signing before next season there - whether it's Prior or someone else.

I still think Prior looks a poor man's Jamie Peacock but he's clearly not a muppet either.

Hooker is a problem again. Johnson isn't ready for SL every week but Dwyer probably isn't the answer either, and on a 1 year deal. Ideally Johnson really develops in 2020 so he's ready to start 2021 (ambitious perhaps), with another young lad under him as cover.

I'd like us to move to an 80 min hooker again, there was a fad of "impact hookers" for a while but the really top hookers can play full games (and should).

It restricts your bench too much IMO.

Think people are bagging Dwyer too much, he was one of our best players last year, yes he is an headless chicken at times, but thats mainly due to him trying too hard and making manic panic plays as we had no threat from the halves. having more structured organisers like Gale, Lui, Mclelland and having more threat should allow him to play a more structured game plan himself and not trying to make it all happen by himself and play the percentages a bit more.
Unless a real high quality hooker is available i see no reason to just Sign another hooker.

Yeah I think if you're going to play Dwyer, you do need a good strong pack to get him on the front foot and provide some strength in D, and then good organising halves should help.

his distribution and wider game is lacking but I'd agree I don't think it's terminal - if top class comes in then I'd be happy, but if not we can run with what we have.

Agreed

Not bagging Dwyer, he's every bit as capable of surprising the opposition as he is his own team mates. It sometimes works and I love his attitude.
That said, I've yet to see him play the role of effective organiser and that doesn't just apply to his time at Leeds. Why he should suddenly adapt to playing like that I'm not sure though of course you could be right. As for signing an average hooker, what fan would want that?

We will sign a prop and a hooker before the start of the season, it’s nailed on. Prop from OZ and the Hooker from Huddersfield. One deal has already been agreed. When RM gets his PNG passport and with Peteru leaving this gives us cap space. The hooker from Huddersfield. He wants to come. They have hookers coming out of their ear holes. He wants to play for Leeds.

Who's the prop?

Itll be Prior.

Is Leeming good enough? Ive not seen a lot of him if im honest. Who does he play like?

He’s another Dwyer really. So in answer, not really what we are craving.

I wonder if they view Leeming as a long term project and we can get him now. I expect Dwyer to go end of next season and we bring in a controlling experienced 9 to compliment Leeming. But you never know if we do bring in Leeming he may turn out great hes only young so lots of expected improvement ahead. I believe hudds fans rate him quite highly

From the Huddersfield forum

I expect Dwyer also to go at the end of his contract if Leeming is brought in.I hope the plan for the future is to have Johnson has the controlling nine and use Leeming as the impact nine.

Thought so Christopher. Let's hope we get him

I said this before about Leeming and nobody agreed! He isn’t a structured Hooker, someone who can kick from dummy half or provides a platform! We don’t need another headless chicken explosion, I like Dwyer sometimes, he’s great from broken play and defences and rolling, but we seriously need structure! Personally I would have kept Lunt to nurture Johnson through, instead of paying for someone we don’t really want!