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| Totally agree Lowes has to go as does the conditioning dept.
On the field i repeat we need a "Powell eque" cull if that means a tough year to bed the best jnrs & new signings/Coaches in then so be it.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It should have been, and still should be an Aussie. Lowes is not a poor coach at all, but the main point is the issue of moving on and new ideas. Lowes has been too involved in that previously, we need someone completely from the outside. That is the only way to go forward.'"
Dont think lowes is a good coach but the rest i agree with. We needed a completely new face with fresh ideas, Lowes is the exact opposite of that. Good coach or bad, he's been around these players alot and its fair to assume he shares a lot of the same ideas as Mcdermott with how often theyv worked together.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Lowes was an absolutely shocking choice to coach the team imo, we needed a fresh start with new ideas when mcdermott left, instead we get his best mate whos been sacked or left under a cloud everywhere he's been. Sinfield as DOR is a good move but with a quality coach working alongside him, not james lowes.'"
Yep, bang on. I'm still hoping there is someone on the radar to take the reigns after the season has ended. I really don't see too much hope running with the set up that has been put in place since Mac was moved on. Like you say Sinfield as DOR is a good thing but it will take time and there needs to be someone proven in the dug out for him to work with and learn from.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It should have been, and still should be an Aussie. Lowes is not a poor coach at all, but the main point is the issue of moving on and new ideas. Lowes has been too involved in that previously, we need someone completely from the outside. That is the only way to go forward.'"
I fully agree with you on this. However would a top Aussie coach wish to work under a DOR. Anyone worth their salt will want full control, including recruitment, in which case Sinfield is an expensive supernumerary and possibly GH too.
Not sure this has been thought through well enough and smacks of a panic decision in order to get out of paying BMD anything.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"I fully agree with you on this. However would a top Aussie coach wish to work under a DOR. Anyone worth their salt will want full control, including recruitment, in which case Sinfield is an expensive supernumerary and possibly GH too.
Not sure this has been thought through well enough and smacks of a panic decision in order to get out of paying BMD anything.'"
The days where coaches select the players is history - most coaches will have an input but the club will make the decision. Lets face it most players last longer than the coaches.
We need an Aussie coach and conditioner - new ideas new messages new techniques. The NRL is light years ahead of SL in terms of skills, tactics and conditioning.
McDermott will have had a contract that would have needed to be honoured regardless of the circumstances of his departure
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Totally agree Lowes has to go as does the conditioning dept.
On the field i repeat we need a "Powell eque" cull if that means a tough year to bed the best jnrs & new signings/Coaches in then so be it.'"
Yep sometimes you have to be ruthless.
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| We’ve stood still on just about all fronts, hence why we’ve been caught up and surpassed.
We’ll see what happens at the end of the season with the review. I really hope they do it honestly and make sure we don’t repeat the same mistakes we SHOULD have learned in 2016.
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| End of the season is too late to prepare for the next season, the review should be undertaken now and steps made to correct the situation so we get the right players/coaches for next year before someone else does...
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It should have been, and still should be an Aussie. Lowes is not a poor coach at all, but the main point is the issue of moving on and new ideas. Lowes has been too involved in that previously, we need someone completely from the outside. That is the only way to go forward.'"
It is, and I wonder how, or whether, the presence of Sinny as DOR can be squared with it.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"I fully agree with you on this. However would a top Aussie coach wish to work under a DOR. Anyone worth their salt will want full control, including recruitment, in which case Sinfield is an expensive supernumerary and possibly GH too.
Not sure this has been thought through well enough and smacks of a panic decision in order to get out of paying BMD anything.'"
Unless the rumour that GH is set to retire once the development is complete and Sinfield takes the job of CEO is true ?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"End of the season is too late to prepare for the next season, the review should be undertaken now and steps made to correct the situation so we get the right players/coaches for next year before someone else does...'"
Correct - I expect more of the same for 2019 with a big leap for 2020
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Correct - I expect more of the same for 2019 with a big leap for 2020'"
Question is, will the floating paying punter be willing to wait that long? I think we all know the answer, especially if the Elland Road brigade finally get their act together...
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Question is, will the floating paying punter be willing to wait that long? I think we all know the answer, especially if the Elland Road brigade finally get their act together...'"
If LUFC ever get their act together that will have a significant downside to the revenue/profitability of the Rhinos.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"If LUFC ever get their act together that will have a significant downside to the revenue/profitability of the Rhinos.'"
How? LUFC have still been getting great crowds despite being rubbish, and the Rhinos still manage to be profitable.
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| Reports in Wigan suggesting that Lam and his lad will be there in 2019, so perhaps that may increase the chances of Furner coaching Leeds next season.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Reports in Wigan suggesting that Lam and his lad will be there in 2019, so perhaps that may increase the chances of Furner coaching Leeds next season.'"
Furner sounds like the best option out there to me.Played with Sinfield too so they know each other.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"How? LUFC have still been getting great crowds despite being rubbish, and the Rhinos still manage to be profitable.'"
If they were to get into the PL you can add 15-20k a game and as we all know the young ones are primarily interested in soccer - that will hurt Leeds RL - money can only go so far
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| Leeds averaged round about 29/30 thousand last couple of years. ground holds 38.
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| LUFC averaged 31k at home games last season, Elland Road only holds 38k, so even if they get promoted the gates won't be too different.
The academy seems to also be favouring a more 'cosmopolitan' approach to signing young players. Anyway, a Premiere League football team could actually benefit Leeds Rugby.
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| If LUFC got back into the PL something would have to be done with the West stand - its prehistoric
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| And if LUFC upgraded their stadium it would be greatly reduced capacity for at least one season
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| Shut up Sal.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I'm convinced we will have an Aussie coach next year.
providing we are still in SL.....'"
Tad I am no way in the know here but I was told from someone closely connected to the club that Dave Furner was our next coach at least 4 weeks before Brian Mac was relieved of his duties and I was confident enough to post that info on social media
I hope that it's true
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| you just sometimes meet people in the know. did a bit of digger driving for Danny Houghton dad Darren last year. lovely bloke. loved his rugby too and a good source of gossip!
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| Quote ="loiner81"Shut up Sal.'"
You are back - wonder way you haven't been posting
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