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| Shaun Wane riding his high horse all the way to saint steve to wail about having a try chalked off and throwing out hollow hypocritical sound bites out to the local rag, must have a big game coming up.
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| Quote ="chapylad"1. Ashton Golding
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kallum Watkins (C)
5. Ryan Hall
6. Joel Moon
7. Richie Myler
8. Adam Cuthbertson
9. Matt Parcell
10. Brad Singleton
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12. Carl Ablett
13. Stevie Ward
14. Brad Dwyer
15. Brett Delaney
16. Anthony Mullally
22. Ash Handley
27. Cameron Smith
28. Mikolaj Oledzki
30. Josh Walters.
Depending on how fit Cuthbertson is it should be Walters and either Smith or Oledzki who miss out I reckon.
No Keinhorst, Walker, Ferres or Sutcliffe along with Peteru and Garbutt .'"
Judging by that.
Golding; Briscoe Watkins Handley Hall; Moon Myler; Mullally Parcell Singleton; Ablett Ward; JJB. Dwyer Delaney Cuthbertson Oledzki/Smith/Walters
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Spot on. Any form of deliberate obstruction is cheating and should be penalised even if not near the ball carrier, then perhaps it will stop being coached.'"
Agreed.
Also agree with the comment further above that the obstruction rule has been overcomplicated by the authorities. Instead of sticking to their guns a few years ago they allowed the rule to be bent by attacking sides who insisted on sending runners into the line. Attacking teams have got slightly better at making the obstruction look less obvious but it’s still there.
In the end a player in front of the ball is offside. It should be entirely on that offside players shoulders to not interfere in any way whatsoever with the defensive line. That shouldn’t only include contact with the defence, it should also include causing a defender to deviate their run in any way at all. Defenders shouldn’t have to be stepping around offside attackers.
If an attacker is offside and is in the way of a defender then penalise him. Then like you say teams will coach differently and refine and improve their attack to be properly creative not just chucking blockers into the defensive line and sending someone quick through the gap it’s created.
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| Quote ="Him"Agreed.
Also agree with the comment further above that the obstruction rule has been overcomplicated by the authorities. Instead of sticking to their guns a few years ago they allowed the rule to be bent by attacking sides who insisted on sending runners into the line. Attacking teams have got slightly better at making the obstruction look less obvious but it’s still there.
In the end a player in front of the ball is offside. It should be entirely on that offside players shoulders to not interfere in any way whatsoever with the defensive line. That shouldn’t only include contact with the defence, it should also include causing a defender to deviate their run in any way at all. Defenders shouldn’t have to be stepping around offside attackers.
If an attacker is offside and is in the way of a defender then penalise him. Then like you say teams will coach differently and refine and improve their attack to be properly creative not just chucking blockers into the defensive line and sending someone quick through the gap it’s created.'"
What if a defender misreads the attack and tackles a dummy runner should the try stand or be disallowed?
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| Very poor performance imo. Tried to shut up shop too early and invited wigan back into it. 2 points thrown away.
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| Shut up shop? We never opened it!
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| Horrendous officials, horrendous game management.
Like to praise Ablett who did do much dirty work.
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| There for the taking and we blew it. Too many bombed chances.
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| This isn’t an excuse for losing the game as we did that to ourselves. But it’s so frustrating watching the Wigan players diving around after being tackled trying to win the penalty. Ryan Sutton is the worst for it.
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| Both teams looked tired. 4th game in 14 days and tonight was a good advertisement for scrapping the double header Easter weekend. Play that 2/3 weeks either side of Easter and it's a much better game.
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| 8-0 up & then sticking to a 1 man drive came back to bite us big time. The bench rotation was questionable at best & once again dumb penalties prove costly.
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| 8-8. Struggling to complete sets while Wigan are gaining 80m a time .... and someone decided a short kick off was a good idea ... literally guaranteeing they would be in drop goal range.
Incredible stupidity.
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| Wigan fans throwing things at our players and then Sutton and Marshal swearing at our fans, pretty much sums Wigan up... absolute SCUM.
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| Quote ="Joshheff90"This isn’t an excuse for losing the game as we did that to ourselves. But it’s so frustrating watching the Wigan players diving around after being tackled trying to win the penalty. Ryan Sutton is the worst for it.'"
both teams guilty of it. Pretty awful game for the neutral. A big hangover from the easter exertions
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Wigan fans throwing things at our players and then Sutton and Marshal swearing at our fans, pretty much sums Wigan up... absolute SCUM.'"
You can add Delaney to that list after his foul mouth tirade to Sam Tomkins and then Wigan fans, there’s scum if u need proof
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| One positive is that Watkins nailed two very tough kicks. After the carry on after the Cas game he's got back into the swing of things in that department at least.
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| Brad Dwyer tweeted earlier he's out with a fractured elbow.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Wigan fans throwing things at our players and then Sutton and Marshal swearing at our fans, pretty much sums Wigan up... absolute SCUM.'"
I’d like to see some proof of this. I know the lad and he’s the least likely person to do something like this. Looks like you just need to stop being a child throwing accusations around because of sour grapes.
Oh and just to add, If you watch the sky viewing back again you’ll see Leeds fans throw things at Wigan players at the end and the stewards run over to stop them.
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| Quote ="hatty"You can add Delaney to that list after his foul mouth tirade to Sam Tomkins and then Wigan fans, there’s scum if u need proof'"
Never your doing is it?
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| Quote ="JWarriors"I’d like to see some proof of this. I know the lad and he’s the least likely person to do something like this. Looks like you just need to stop being a child throwing accusations around because of sour grapes.
Oh and just to add, If you watch the sky viewing back again you’ll see Leeds fans throw things at Wigan players at the end and the stewards run over to stop them.'"
I was stood with those fans, I didn't see anything been thrown at all, the stewards helped both teams to the dressing rooms because atm they have to go through the crowd.
Which player do you mean? Sutton seemed to react to something tbf, Marshall began swearing and screaming in fans faces (some no older than 13) as soon as he got over to that corner. Tominks was clapping and cheering which is a bit unsportsmanlike but every team (including Leeds) have players who do that.
Typical pies, can't even admit that throwing things at players is absolutely disgraceful.
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| Already plenty of bed wetting on social media to a one point lost and needing a clear out.
Context - the last time Wigan won at Headingley we had Sinfield, McGuire, Peacock, Burrow, Leuluai and Webb and it finished 8-50 and we still beat them in both SF's and won the GF.
Tonight's lost is disappointing but still a team learning under new leaders. They got it wrong in the last 10-15 mins but let's give them the chance to learn from it before getting carried away. The Golden Geberation certainly had a lot worst than 1 point losses in their time despite the successes.
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| Would we have won if Walters had played???? Only teasing Gotcha.
Thought we was poor tonight with the ball. Last 15/20 minutes we played for the hooter. Five drives and a 10 or 15 yard kick drilled into touch suggested we was not trying to score again and Wigan had 15 mins to score 9 points which they duly did.
The short kick off at 8-8 was suicidal rugby and was a poor option to take and ended up costing us dearly.
While others may say we went too early for a drop goal I'm ok with what we did. 2 more drives would have gained little and had Myler under even more pressure from defenders bearing down on him so the earlier the better for me.
Look, defensively we was very good tonight and I thought Parcell was as good as he's been all season out of dummy half so there are some positives out of the game but ultimately I thought Wigan offensively was marginally better and despite the milking of penalties I thought they just about deserved the win.
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| it wasn't Wigan fans I bet it was them students from the houses at the back throwing a bog brush .nice to see the wiganers back here though weve missed you
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| I was stood right behind the sticks in the Western Terrace and Leeds fans threw loads of small sponge rugby balls at our players before kick off and ours threw the same balls at your players before the second half kicked off. These were being given out before the game around the stadium. An absolute non event as I’m sure both sets of players would agree.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Both teams looked tired. 4th game in 14 days and tonight was a good advertisement for scrapping the double header Easter weekend. Play that 2/3 weeks either side of Easter and it's a much better game.'"
100%
To put one of superleagues marquee fixtures on the wrong side of the Easter weekend is lunacy.
It was a dreadful spectacle and that’s sad considering the two groups of players on show.
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