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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nope. If we want it, let's go back to the tested way and give it another go. Take three weeks out of the season, top eight from each competition split into four groups of four. Three matches each group played over first 10 days, top teams from each group in semi finals weekend after, and the winners play the final week after.
They could even play one of matches like a magic weekend, four games one day, four the day after, to save us having to have the silly extra match in our competition. And we all get to see the top players in action.'"
It could and probably would be worse than before.
No thanks.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"It could and probably would be worse than before.
No thanks.'"
That we might lose would be the worst reason not to play it.
The challenged should be welcomed.
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| 3 matches in only 10 days, two of them against NRL opposition. Talk about setting SL clubs up for a battering. We've seen how the quality drops more when teams are forced into short turnarounds.
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| It is a nice idea but, let's be honest, no UK team could come close to being competitive. We simply do not have the intensity on a weekly basis and playing multiple games in a short turn around would leave us with some cricket scores in the against column.
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| Quote ="Ronzy"It is a nice idea but, let's be honest, no UK team could come close to being competitive. We simply do not have the intensity on a weekly basis and playing multiple games in a short turn around would leave us with some cricket scores in the against column.'"
Spot on, and maybe our top two or three teams MIGHT do respectably but looking at the Top 8 from this season do you think Wakey, Salford and Hudds are going to be able to hang with NRL teams twice in just over a week?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"That we might lose would be the worst reason not to play it.
The challenged should be welcomed.'"
We wouldn't just lose, we would be destroyed generally across the board and ridiculed again like 97'. Their teams are light years ahead and it does pain me to say that but its reality.
Our best team can compete at home on a cold, damp night in feb against them but thats as far as it goes.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"We wouldn't just lose, we would be destroyed generally across the board and ridiculed again like 97'. Their teams are light years ahead and it does pain me to say that but its reality.
Our best team can compete at home on a cold, damp night in feb against them but thats as far as it goes.'"
Of all reasons that could possibly be put forward, being scared is the worst i could possibly think of.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Of all reasons that could possibly be put forward, being scared is the worst i could possibly think of.'"
It's not being scared it's being realistic.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Of all reasons that could possibly be put forward, being scared is the worst i could possibly think of.'"
Would you want to see a high profile series of games between the top 8 in the SL and top 8 in the Championship? And how do you think that would end? Because the gap between SL and NRL is similar.
Lets get our own comp up to scratch and worth watching top to bottom before feeling some ridiculous urges to challenge the best league on the planet when we are miles off.
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| Another beggar the quality look at the volume money grab. I would rather watch less games of higher quality than have the players (in a limited rosta sport) flogged into more and more games. We need to up the quality of the sport and for me these cash drives do not facilitate that goal.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Spot on, and maybe our top two or three teams MIGHT do respectably but looking at the Top 8 from this season do you think Wakey, Salford and Hudds are going to be able to hang with NRL teams twice in just over a week?'"
So go top four from each then. Two groups. Still play a magic weekend style for one round. The coverage would be massive compared to now, or Magic weekend. Gives an even bigger focus for teams to finish top four also.
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| If there wasn't going to be a WCC, how about a 'Charity Shield' type game. It could be taken on the road to promote the game
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| Quote ="D4mo78"If there wasn't going to be a WCC, how about a 'Charity Shield' type game. It could be taken on the road to promote the game'"
For which charity, Salford Reds or Bradford Bulls?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"So go top four from each then. Two groups. Still play a magic weekend style for one round. The coverage would be massive compared to now, or Magic weekend. Gives an even bigger focus for teams to finish top four also.'"
We've tried the top 3 recently and it flopped with comfortable 3-0 wins for the Aussies. You want to add in our 4th placed team for a beating too.
The Aussies would have little to no interest in an event that lasted 3/4 weekends. They don't need it in their schedule.
I know people are desperate for some sort of competition vs NRL teams but there just isn't one that'll work or benefit SL.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"It's not being scared it's being realistic.'"
No, its being scared.
Real things can be scary.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"icon_lol.gif
Would you want to see a high profile series of games between the top 8 in the SL and top 8 in the Championship? And how do you think that would end? Because the gap between SL and NRL is similar.
Lets get our own comp up to scratch and worth watching top to bottom before feeling some ridiculous urges to challenge the best league on the planet when we are miles off.'"
How is our comp ever going to get up to scratch when we are too scared to test it?
And we wonder why we struggle to market the game, "super league, not good enough to bother playing the best".
Also dont we have a series of high profile games between the top clubs and the bottom ones? In fact we have a competition, broadcast on national television, where next year Leeds could end up playing an amateur side. How does it end? about 80k watch at Wembley and millions on the BBC.
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| With each passing season it's becoming harder to see what the CC does to enhance the game in this country. An expanded top 4 vs top 4 WCC, with the final at Wembley in the summer is way more appealing to me
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"With each passing season it's becoming harder to see what the CC does to enhance the game in this country. An expanded top 4 vs top 4 WCC, with the final at Wembley in the summer is way more appealing to me'"
Exactly.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"We've tried the top 3 recently and it flopped with comfortable 3-0 wins for the Aussies. You want to add in our 4th placed team for a beating too.
The Aussies would have little to no interest in an event that lasted 3/4 weekends. They don't need it in their schedule.
I know people are desperate for some sort of competition vs NRL teams but there just isn't one that'll work or benefit SL.'"
No we haven’t w have tried three seperate matches on different days with two of them meaning nothing. That isn’t what I suggested at all.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"With each passing season it's becoming harder to see what the CC does to enhance the game in this country. An expanded top 4 vs top 4 WCC, with the final at Wembley in the summer is way more appealing to me'"
The top 4 Aussie teams aren't going to come over here for nearly a month mid-season so the idea is dead in the water right there. You could scrap the CC to fit it into our schedule, how do you fit it into the NRL who definitely don't want a longer season?
What are the other 8 SL and 12 NRL going to do exactly? Just sit around and watch
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"How is our comp ever going to get up to scratch when we are too scared to test it?.'"
You get the competition up to scratch by focusing on it, not playing the Aussies and hoping it has some knock on effect.
If the Aussies took it seriously with strongest teams they'd comfortably win and all you'll have achieved is making our competition and top teams look poor and inferior on a larger scale.....that'll do way more harm than good for SL. If the Aussies send 2nd string teams then people will see through it as meaningless.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"No we haven’t w have tried three seperate matches on different days with two of them meaning nothing. That isn’t what I suggested at all.'"
It's moving the deckchairs on the Titanic. You only have to see the first couple of pages on here where people aren't even that bothered if we play the WCC match, also see some views from Warrington fans who whilst they thought it was ok when they beat Brisbane are now wishing they hadn't bothered because how there season went. It's starting to be viewed as a inconvenient event that messes up your season and that just playing 1 game, will be worst playing more.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"It's moving the deckchairs on the Titanic. You only have to see the first couple of pages on here where people aren't even that bothered if we play the WCC match, also see some views from Warrington fans who whilst they thought it was ok when they beat Brisbane are now wishing they hadn't bothered because how there season went. It's starting to be viewed as a inconvenient event that messes up your season and that just playing 1 game, will be worst playing more.'"
Exactly, and nobody is arguing we continue with that. The suggestion is a completely different competition with better coverage.
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| IMV the WCC like the Magic Weekend is an idea that has outlived its usefulness. Both should be binned.
Whilst we're at it move the CC back to an early season comp with the final in May/June/
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Exactly, and nobody is arguing we continue with that. The suggestion is a completely different competition with better coverage.'"
First year I'm sure you'll get better coverage but after that it's massively dependent on the results which let's be realistic are only really going to be one of two scenarios
1 - Aussies go full strength and batter us and after 2/3 years of all NRL finals and SF's the coverage will drop like a stone
2 - The Aussies send their reserves and people lose interest in it because of the understrength NRL teams making the competition meaningless.
Those are the two very highly likely outcomes and both will see the competition dead in the water after 3/4 years and in scenario 1 you'll have actually done more harm than good to the SL competition.
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