Good to see Loiner 81 has spoken to so many Aussie fans . I for one will wait and see how good he is but at 24 years of age he has played very few first grade games and lasted only 12 months at Manly which is a worry . but i will give him time and hope for the best .

A very balanced view.

Otherwise, one risks embarrassment of "Achurchian" proportions when relying upon internet forums and selective YouTube visitations.

At the end of the day, there's risk with signing any player. We've signed former NRL first grade regulars who haven't turned out great, some who've become legends of our club.

We've signed guys with little first grade experience who've turned out good (Leuluai, Garbutt), some who have been awful (Achurch, Vickery).

But I believe Parcell has slightly better pedigree than those two, and in terms of what I've seen and his skill set, he fits what we wanted. It also sounds like Mac did some homework talking to Chad Randall whose based at Manly, and Parcell did likewise talking to Ben Walker.

I'd say this signing is an informed gamble rather than an out and out guess.

A very sensible outlook.

I haven't spoken to a single one but I don't need to and guess what? Neither do you.
Try browsing the Manly Facebook page, search for Matt Parcell on Twitter or go visit the Manly fans forum...

It's not rocket science this stuff.

Correct let's hope you win otherwise its going to be a very tough watching season

Unlike yours.



Indeed.

I always win

Spot on how I see it. You only have to start reeling off names like Brett Mullins, Bradley Clyde etc. before you get quite a list of guys who came here (or other English clubs) who were successes in the NRL to know it doesn't equate to how they'll go here. Usually it's the guys who are seeing it as a real opportunity rather than a nicely paid holiday and Parcell certainly drops into the former. Much questioning and hinting as to why he's leaving Manly and the NRL as if he must come with some sort of issue to lower himself to SL. By the sounds of it it's just a guy who looked like he'd be 2nd choice at Manly behind the coaches preferred guy Koroisau and he wants to be starting games instead so jumped at the chance to come here. Manly have options at hooker and sound like they want to strengthen other areas.

You mean embarrassing calls like back in 2011 when you said that Leeds squad had nothing left in them, needed dismantling and someone needed to stick a fork in them as they were done?.....and they went on to get another 3 GF's, 2 CC's, 1 WCC & LLS

I'd suggest that signing an actual hooker, whilst making us look much more stable, doesn't address the issues we had even if Segeyaro had stayed - namely fullback and halfback. On paper at least we look weaker than every other top 4 contender in those positions, albeit with the possibility of a lot of upside in Golding/Sutcliffe/Lilley/Aston.

No, I think he means embarrassing calls like the one he made in 2014 where he predicted that Leeds only achievement in 2015 would be to win the Lazenby cup.

He was a bit like those who predicted Leeds would be playing Wigan, Warrington and Saints at the end of 2016 and not Batley, Leigh, Featherstone and London and that includes you



Stones and glass houses come to mind

Once again we are gambling with the season, starting out with a player in the key position who is second choice option at the team who finished I think 3 rd bottom of the NFL.
Sure the Keyboard warriors will correct me if I'm wrong.
No disrespect to Matt hope he becomes a club legend I just think that at this time we need an established hooker one with mongrel like mclorum to work with Lilly and sutty in the absence of mags and rob and their imminent retirement.
Also this is a gamble because Matt has a history of bad hamstring
Cheap option

And 3......2......1........

Every signing can be seen as a gamble Segeyaro was seen as a "Marquee" signing look how that turned out whereas Kylie Leuluai was received with a "who's he" type of reaction.
I do question GH wrt strengthening Fevs roster during a major transitional period for us & especially after a cluster of a year but with this particular signing i can see why we've gone down this route & i personally am prepared to give the kid a chance.

Regarding McIlorum you're talking about someone who we haven't seen play since suffering a serious long term injury and even heard noises during the year that he might never recover from it. Even if he does return he could well be a shadow of the player he was.

true, but Leeds are putting faith in their homegrown players.. It may prove misplaced but too few British halves in the game

TBF I'm sure that the lions share of supporters will do just that, support him.

Its really only one agenda driven poop stirrer on here who's enjoying tugging himself off by belittling someone before he's lifted a finger for the club.

Not really since I said we'd be lucky to finish top 4.
You predicted they'd finish top, remember?

Have a lovely day!

A very reasonable post which won't be tolerated by the usual suspects on this forum, but very reasonable nonetheless.

I too hope that the gamble pays off and Parcell is a success like Kylie as opposed to an Achurch, or a Vickery.

Welcome to the forum BTW.

It would be interesting to pull up your predictions for the finishing positions for 2016 - I would be very surprised if you suggested Leeds would not finished in the top 4 before the season started!! I could be wrong.

You will have done what you always do - change your stance part way through the season - you were sure they would make the 8 until the Cas defeat at home and then all of a sudden a change of heart!!

At least we have a bet that is free from ambiguity - at last



Have a great day - don't go throwing any stones!!

Don't bet on it



There's more chance of Rupert Murdoch paying tax.

I made that statement when you wanted to place a bet last year. I'll be happy to link to it if you like, it shouldn't take long to find.
Unlike some on here I don't make stuff up.

Anyway, good luck with your bet of Leeds struggling again this year. What would this board and the club do without fans like you!!

Here you go Sal.... viewtopic.php?f=17&t=592015&start=41 Like I say, i'm always happy to back up my statements where possible. You and the potty postman should try the same. Starting with this.... Quote ="Sal Paradise"You will have done what you always do - change your stance part way through the season - you were sure they would make the 8 until the Cas defeat at home and then all of a sudden a change of heart!! '" Or you could always apologise for making stuff up again.

Here you go Sal.... viewtopic.php?f=17&t=592015&start=41 Like I say, i'm always happy to back up my statements where possible. You and the potty postman should try the same. Starting with this.... Quote ="Sal Paradise"You will have done what you always do - change your stance part way through the season - you were sure they would make the 8 until the Cas defeat at home and then all of a sudden a change of heart!! '" Or you could always apologise for making stuff up again.