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| Quote ="vastman"Think your twelve month out there William old boy. Though I'd agree that we probably do still have the thinest squad in SL which I suppose equates to the weakest I think the gap you are suggesting is no longer that big and closing all the time.
The addition of England, Moore, Arona and Anthony Tupou to the squad had helped a lot plus those who did perform last year such as Ashurst and Simon continue to do so. The return to form of Kirmond will also start to tell as the season goes on. However the real boost has come from the emergence from the junior ranks of Tom Johnstone, Max Jowitt and to a lesser degree Chris Anakin. They have brought a freshness and enthusiasm to the club that only young players can. Our biggest weakness remains our half backs, with Finn who is functional and Miller who frustrates at every moment which is bad enough but we have nothing in reserve if either gets worse or injured.
Not claiming we are world beaters and we will be bottom four but bottom is by no means a certainty. I expect a fairly easy win for you, but then you are champions playing at home so I'd expect an easy win for you against most teams.
PS: You don't fancy swapping Jones Bishop for one of your young halves do you? I suppose not
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Vastman... I'd like to apologise to you, the Wakey club and the rest of the Wakey fans for talking your club down too much.
Great result for your lads today, particularly given the shorter Easter turnaround your squad had.
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| That was a terrible performance all the way through like I said we should be thumping Wakefield at home but were not a class act this season at all. Dk what Falloon was thinking was on there in dying minutes when Burrow was set for a drop goal. I can't see us making top 4 this year we need something drastic to happen and quickly!!!
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| Quote ="William Eve"Vastman... I'd like to apologise to you, the Wakey club and the rest of the Wakey fans for talking your club down too much.
Great result for your lads today, particularly given the shorter Easter turnaround your squad had.
Respect.
Yours sincerely,
William Eve.'"
Thanks for that William.
You can talk Wakefield down as much as you want, & you’d be correct, the Whipping Boy tag is still all ours .
Enjoy the meltdown on here tonight though .
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Thanks for that William.
You can talk Wakefield down as much as you want, & you’d be correct, the Whipping Boy tag is still all ours
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Enjoy the meltdown on here tonight though
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No problem Mr Hicks
I listened on the radio and it sounded like your lads deserved to win with better crafted tries as opposed to Leeds clueless kick, lucky bounce and hope for the best bollox.
I think Wakey have their backs to the wall more than any of the other current SL club so every win for them is a bonus IMO. Great season effort so far given the financial situation, uncertainty and the earlier coaching-ego-dummy-spit setback.
I thought Leeds would be crap and still win today. They've been doing that for the past decade and getting away with it. Has the tide finally turned?
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Another shocking first half. Massive improvement in second half or another loss.'"
What? What complete rubbish. Having loads of ball and a referee who gives you everything, more than I have ever seen to Leeds in a game before, does not constitute an improvement.
The performance was worse than the Huddersfield one, which I never thought possible. The coach has clearly lost the dressing room, as they clearly do not listen, if he is saying anything to improve.
Will give a big rap to Walters though, a player I don't rate, but whom I thought played very well today, much better than his team mates.
I have never seen a worse stand off in Leeds history than the current incumbent. The excuses need to stop.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What? What complete rubbish. Having loads of ball and a referee who gives you everything, more than I have ever seen to Leeds in a game before, does not constitute an improvement.
The performance was worse than the Huddersfield one, which I never thought possible. The coach has clearly lost the dressing room, as they clearly do not listen, if he is saying anything to improve.
Will give a big rap to Walters though, a player I don't rate, but whom I thought played very well today, much better than his team mates.
I have never seen a worse stand off in Leeds history than the current incumbent. The excuses need to stop.'"
Calm down - that was posted at half time. He was saying we *need* a massive improvement, not that there was one.
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| We are so inept with the ball it's just not funny. Falloons crazy last tackle, blind alley play that cost the game just summed up the clueless, directionless, structureless tripe that has been served up all year.
Before I hear anything McDermott comes up with in the presser, this team doesn't need more hard work and toughness to improve. It needs a plan with the ball, players who understand and play to that plan. It needs half backs to pass the damn ball, and a structure to make it possible for them to do that given they are struggling massively.
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| Dreadful performance the ref handed that game to us and we couldn't take the points. Still it's only a game won't get too worked up about it. The most annoying thing about our current run is the re appearance of the troll!
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Dreadful performance the ref handed that game to us and we couldn't take the points. Still it's only a game won't get too worked up about it. The most annoying thing about our current run is the re appearance of the troll!'"
Agreed. It's the only thing more brainless than our players at the moment.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Come on Trinity! A repeat of Boxing Day would be good!
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Trinity beat the mighty Leeds again! Outplayed by 'lowly Wakefield'...
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| Good luck to the bullying triumvirate of Printer, Him and torquemada81 in their attempts to force a positive outlook down everyone's throats over the next few days on here.
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| Quote ="chapylad"If we can't beat Wakefield at home even without McGuire we really are in trouble.'"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What? What complete rubbish. Having loads of ball and a referee who gives you everything, more than I have ever seen to Leeds in a game before, does not constitute an improvement.
The performance was worse than the Huddersfield one, which I never thought possible. The coach has clearly lost the dressing room, as they clearly do not listen, if he is saying anything to improve.
Will give a big rap to Walters though, a player I don't rate, but whom I thought played very well today, much better than his team mates.
I have never seen a worse stand off in Leeds history than the current incumbent. The excuses need to stop.'"
He wrote that at half time...
Performance was rubbish, no shape in attack, the passing wasnt crisp and runs were nearly always miss timed
As for Sutcliffe, I thought he was pretty poor today, but he was still probably better than Burrow Falloon and Lilley as he at least put in a few good kicks
We have no brains in the team, not going for 2 at the end of the first half and not shaping to take a drop goal at the end of the second cost us the game
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"He wrote that at half time...
Performance was rubbish, no shape in attack, the passing wasnt crisp and runs were nearly always miss timed
As for Sutcliffe, I thought he was pretty poor today, but he was still probably better than Burrow Falloon and Lilley as he at least put in a few good kicks
We have no brains in the team, not going for 2 at the end of the first half and not shaping to take a drop goal at the end of the second cost us the game'"
Pretty sure it was a differential penalty so you can't go for goal.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"He wrote that at half time...
We have no brains in the team, not going for 2 at the end of the first half and not shaping to take a drop goal at the end of the second cost us the game'"
We have no brains true, but you don't know the rules.
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| Put that performance in the bin with Widnes wigan hudds cas now wakey. Embarrassing from a team with so much talent. No captain no leader no creativity no goalkicker. On the plus side 16 wins from our last 22 games n we make the top 4
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"We have no brains true, but you don't know the rules.'"
I forgot, what was the penalty for?
Doesnt change the fact that when we should have shaped for a drop goal Falloon lead the team out wide instead of sending forwards towards the posts
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"I forgot, what was the penalty for?
Doesnt change the fact that when we should have shaped for a drop goal Falloon lead the team out wide instead of sending forwards towards the posts'"
It was an offense at the scrum which can never be a kickable penalty.
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| It was so bad people in the Carnegie stand left before they announced the attendance! How will they know how many people watched that shower of e?
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"We are so inept with the ball it's just not funny. Falloons crazy last tackle, blind alley play that cost the game just summed up the clueless, directionless, structureless tripe that has been served up all year.
Before I hear anything McDermott comes up with in the presser, this team doesn't need more hard work and toughness to improve. It needs a plan with the ball, players who understand and play to that plan. It needs half backs to pass the damn ball, and a structure to make it possible for them to do that given they are struggling massively.'"
Spot on. The last tackle plays today would have embarrassed an u13's team. We scored 2 lucky ones from kicks.but that can happen when you actually do kick it rather than die with the ball. To quote Boss Hogg " today we reached a new high in lows".
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"Spot on. The last tackle plays today would have embarrassed an u13's team. We scored 2 lucky ones from kicks.but that can happen when you actually do kick it rather than die with the ball. To quote Boss Hogg " today we reached a new high in lows".'"
If we'd have scored with that utter farce of disorganisation on the 6th tackle in the 2nd half it might have been the flukiest try in SL history.
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| Another game, another try conceded to a forward running through an enourmous gap close to our line.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Vastman... I'd like to apologise to you, the Wakey club and the rest of the Wakey fans for talking your club down too much.
Great result for your lads today, particularly given the shorter Easter turnaround your squad had.
Respect.
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William Eve.'"
Very magnanimous of you, must admit to being very surprised at the result. I was looking for a plucky defeat not a reasonably creditable victory.
As for Leeds its a changing of the guard, and I fear it does show that perhaps McDermott was perhaps a bit more dependent on certain players than perhaps we realised. Still your a young squad and you have the cash to splash and even this season isn't a write off just yet.
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| Whilst i agree Sutcliffe wasn't very good today the rest of the team are just as culpable Cuthbo/Zak are trying to win games on their own when we do get the ball to our HB's what options do they have?
You could set a pub team up to defend against us its that 1 dimensional and our Coaches top tactics of "pass it to Rob or Zak" at all costs on the 5th is ridiculous especially when we fail and it becomes another shambles.
Should Sutty be taking charge? Lets put it this way HAS HE BEEN TOLD/COACHED TO the answer is a glaring obvious NO he and Lilley will make errors as will Handley they're still very much young players finding their way which is near impossible in this current set up.
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