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| Referee - James Child. Suddenly the new season seems less exciting.
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| Can't wait for Thursday now. Looks a good Wire side that.
As mentioned by other posters, we need to be strong down the middle. Man for Man, Wire's starting pack is up there with the best in the league. Where we can gain advantage is off the bench. If the bench players can make a big impact, it gives Burrow more to play with the extra gaps being made available.
Going for a very close Leeds win, but would not be shocked to see Wire win by up to 10 due to ring rust etc.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Referee - James Child. Suddenly the new season seems less exciting.'"
Well Warrington did beat us twice last season when he was in charge.
What a ref to test our new Captain out with
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Referee - James Child. Suddenly the new season seems less exciting.'"
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| Quote ="The Flying Winger"Can't wait for Thursday now. Looks a good Wire side that.
As mentioned by other posters, we need to be strong down the middle. Man for Man, Wire's starting pack is up there with the best in the league. Where we can gain advantage is off the bench. If the bench players can make a big impact, it gives Burrow more to play with the extra gaps being made available.
Going for a very close Leeds win, but would not be shocked to see Wire win by up to 10 due to ring rust etc.'"
Ring rust - ouch, sounds painful
Tbh, I think most SL teams will s h i t themselves looking at this Leeds pack and Wire are no exception.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Well Warrington did beat us twice last season when he was in charge.'"
This game will be the 6th time in the last 10 Leeds/Wire games he's been the ref, it's one of his gimmes of the season.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Well Warrington did beat us twice last season when he was in charge.
What a ref to test our new Captain out with
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As long as he's bad both ways that's OK. Wasn't it Child who called Myler for offside in the last minute of the play off semi at Wire in 2011 to allow Kev to kick us to victory? The one thing I'll say for Child is at least when he's bad he's making honest mistakes rather than being influenced by certain players/teams.
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| Achurch would seem the biggest absentee. Unless he's injured again he's dropped behind Walters.
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| I know games arnt won on paper and Wire have been on fire in pre season. But that Wire 19 looks pretty thin.
It's a game that can go either way. I see us only getting beat through individual brilliance rather than losing the battle.
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| Expect a full run out of the new rules then.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Quote ="cheekydiddles"Well Warrington did beat us twice last season when he was in charge.
What a ref to test our new Captain out with
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As long as he's bad both ways that's OK. Wasn't it Child who called Myler for offside in the last minute of the play off semi at Wire in 2011 to allow Kev to kick us to victory? The one thing I'll say for Child is at least when he's bad he's making honest mistakes rather than being influenced by certain players/teams.'"
That was Ganson mate.
I've got a couple of pals who areWarrington fans, and one has stuck a Tenner on them to clean up the lot this year, as they are by far the best side in the comp, with the most fearsome pack. I don't get it myself.
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| We are no where near the best in the comp, my hope is just a shot at the top 4 this year!
Re sgtwilko: agreed, we look thin. Dodds and Bailey are both out injured! However G King & Cox, while not exactly striking fear into your minds, will hold their own when they come on.
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| Quote ="Sgy Loiner"That was Ganson mate.'"
Ganson was referee.
The call that Myler was offside came from the touch judge on that side, which was James Child. Seem to remember Ganson confirming that on the audio when the Wire players questioned the decision.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Ganson was referee.
The call that Myler was offside came from the touch judge on that side, which was James Child. Seem to remember Ganson confirming that on the audio when the Wire players questioned the decision.'"
Ganson "not my fault blame him".
As has been said this appointment will sorely test McGuire's tact & diplomacy.
I just hope all the discussion after the game is about the players & not the ref.
I doubt it somehow.
Can't we have Thaler for all our games, surely as treble winners we deserve that at least.
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| We had Child preseason v Leigh, predictably awful he was.
He missd two drop balls in the tackle on the same set to which we then scored, if i was supporting the opposite side i would have been livid.
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| Maybe we've been given Child as a form of handicap?
Seriously, his problem is has apparent inability to develop any form of rapport with the players.
He gives the impression that he thinks he's somehow better than them.
He talks down to them, not to them.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Achurch would seem the biggest absentee. Unless he's injured again he's dropped behind Walters.'"
He played v Fev on Sunday. Against backdrop of injuries to ward, jjb and mulalley - that is a long way down the list.
Not a great child fan but appears to be reasonably poor to both sides
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Maybe we've been given Child as a form of handicap?
Seriously, his problem is has apparent inability to develop any form of rapport with the players.
He gives the impression that he thinks he's somehow better than them.
He talks down to them, not to them.'"
He does. I remember Child reffing us at open age level when he seemed 14/15 years old (he may have been a little older) and he was very much like this then, as he probably saw it as the only way to get respect and his point across to the old veterans and virtually all the players who were much older than him. Always seemed like he had a big point to prove and that hasn't changed as he has moved up the ranks.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Maybe we've been given Child as a form of handicap?
Seriously, his problem is has apparent inability to develop any form of rapport with the players.
He gives the impression that he thinks he's somehow better than them.
He talks down to them, not to them.'"
Pretty much. The job of the referee should be to work with the players to enforce the laws in a way that makes the game both better to watch and to play in.
Some games you won't be able to do that, because sometimes players don't want to work with you for whatever reason. Too much adrenaline or emotion, unable to cope with pressure etc.
The problem with Child is that every game seems to be one of those where he can't get players to work with him, mostly because his communication is limited to only when absolutely necessary.
Listen to the likes of Thaler, Ian Smith when he used to ref, even Bentham sometimes. They'll have a little laugh and a joke with players during breaks in play, smile at a player when he tries it on pleading his case. Child does none of that, he's like some sort of humourless drone.
It always feels like it's him versus the players, rather than them being there for the same reason.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Well Warrington did beat us twice last season when he was in charge.
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Half true - He was in charge for both games at your gaff. Bentham was in charge when you lost at ours.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"As long as he's bad both ways that's OK. Wasn't it Child who called Myler for offside in the last minute of the play off semi at Wire in 2011 to allow Kev to kick us to victory? The one thing I'll say for Child is at least when he's bad he's making honest mistakes rather than being influenced by certain players/teams.'"
The referee was Ganson, but the call was made by the linesman....James Child. It was the correct call, but after a season of watching referees in almost every game fail to enforce the offside rule, he picked a damn good time for you lot to start didn't he?
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| Smiling at players when they try it on. Bunch of flirts these refs. Little flirty pants.
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| No Falloon then ? Bugger,was looking forward to seeing him play
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