Not sure how that is any different to what it is now.

You have x amount of members, and you have x amount of paying public.

The new proposals is bigger capacity than current members. Therefore you will have x amount of members, and you will have x amount of paying public.

It also states the extra capacity will make up for the loss in the North stand, therefore you would expect that extra capacity to be bigger than we have now.

I'm sure it says the capacity is remaining the same. So intake that to mean that the North will be reduced and South increased by a similar amount

Pretty much my take on it. Plus Caddick could be paying himself to build it?

Proof, were it needed, that this redevelopment is a bad idea...

For those moaning your options are this:
1. Stick with a south stand that is falling down around us and at some point will just be closed by the safety folk and a north stand that quite frankly is not fit for elite sports, or
2. Redevelop with improved seats and corporate possibilities as well as maintaining the heart of the south stand with seating.

For me there is only one long term option and we have all known this for sometime. If you really hate it then give your feedback to the club. I do wonder what some people want though.

Well done to all involved. Yet another example of the club (literally) building strong foundations for the future of the club.

I think both new stands look terrific & reflect the way the game is & should be going.
The seated area in the new SS is to compensate for the reduction in seats in the NS.
That reduction is due to :
- losing seats to the new corporate dining area (which looks great IMV)
- the seats will be bigger than the current wooden monstrosities.
The standing capacity in the SS is greater than the current number of ticketed memberships (newspeak for season tickets) not greater than the existing total standing capacity in the SS.
The overall capacity of the Rugby side stays the same whereas the cricket side increases.
I wonder how the costs/revenue will be shared in the joint corporate & other areas?
A major bone of contention with YCCC currently is due to the fact that they get no match-day income from the catering & bar in the Long Room.
As I see it the entire funding relies on obtaining planning permission for housing on two green belt sites, so that could be a major stumbling block.
However both sites have been included in the City Council's plans that identified sites to satisfy the government's requirement for additional housing in the LCC area.
But I'm sure the nimby brigade in NW Leeds are writing banners & preparing to protest against these plans even as I post this.
Great to see concrete proposals with funding.
Let's hope it happens or we can say goodbye to Test Match crcket in Leeds for a long time if not for ever & Leeds Rugby will struggle to finance any redevelopment of the South Stand, with or without seats.
The proposals have my full support.

Very pleased although I would have liked the Rugby ground capacity to have been increased to about 24k

I didn't even realise until I read it in the YEP report that the club had these additional sites out at Tingley and Weetwood. Are they just empty fields at the moment?

The clubs that complain that they've lost atmosphere have occurred when they've moved grounds entirely to the middle of nowhere out of the way.

This still keeps us at Headingley and they are several big football teams such as Liverpool (The Kop), Everton, Newcastle (even though their team gives them little to cheer about) that have had to upgrade and change their stadiums especially after the events of Hillsborough and still keep their atmospheres and identities.

The only problem I have is that is that it makes the Western Terrace look even more ridicolusly out of sync and out of date with the rest of the ground, a real eye sore.

What is our 'OFFICAL' capacity at the moment as it seems to depend on what health and safety deem acceptable ever since they condemned the South Stand several years ago.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"I didn't even realise until I read it in the YEP report that the club had these additional sites out at Tingley and Weetwood. Are they just empty fields at the moment?'" Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/

Quote ="Andy Gilder"I didn't even realise until I read it in the YEP report that the club had these additional sites out at Tingley and Weetwood. Are they just empty fields at the moment?'" Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/

Quote ="Old Feller"Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/'" I always thought the south stand capacity was 10,000? that new proposal on there says it will be 7,721. Sure that must be significantly down on current?

Quote ="Old Feller"Yes. www.hwt-leeds.co.uk/'" I always thought the south stand capacity was 10,000? that new proposal on there says it will be 7,721. Sure that must be significantly down on current?

Meh. Looks like they got a crack team of multi-storey car park architects into design the whole thing.

I think its just over 20K

Great looking stand but what about the away fans? no Roof?

& I can see ticket prices sky rocket to pay for this in the future?

Did prices at your new stadium or Warrington's rocket?
If not why should ours?

its been stated time and again when away fans come here and moan that the western terrace away end will always remain the way it is with no roof as there is no scope to redevelopment due to the houses directly behind.Nothing the club can do about it.

I think the designs look fantastic, and the stadium will look fantastic when finished, I for one like the idea of some seats in the south stand, the sour stand has a great atmosphere but unless you are smack in the middle 3rd it's not the best view, I will be looking at upgrading to south stand seats.

The other side is that we will gave more chance for international matches league and union.

Of course the final peace will be the western terrace but untill those houses are gone/ bought that will be a while off. Of course when we have the space no reason why corners and increase in capacity overall can be achieved.

When the weather is good and the place is full the western terrace is still fine. There are worst places in the league, castleford railway end, craven park, and odsal full stop.

You forgot to include Belle Vue or whatever it's called now.
There are still plenty of uncovered areas at the Catalan's ground, but the cover there is mainly needed to keep off the sun.

Even if the club could, I really don't see where the commercial return would be for them.

Unless they could demonstrate that an excessive number of '1-2 time a year customers' were actively put off from visiting Headingley, there isn't any justification for doing it.

And given that we're a predominantly summer sport and given that Warrington have already sold 7 coaches for Thursday's game, I don't think that's the case.

Per the 2011 planning application for the new South Stand at that time, capacity broke down as:

North Stand: 5,176 seats (inc paddock)
South Stand: 6,000 standing (reduced from 8,000 due to the HSE inspection, might have gone back up now after the remedial work)
Carnegie Stand: 2,500 standing, 1,851 seats
Western Terrace: 5,000 standing

So 13,500 standing and just over 7,000 seats at that point in time.

The new North Stand has 3,800 seats and there will be an additional 2,200 in the new South Stand, giving 7,850 seats in total

There will be space for 5,500 standing in the new South Stand, meaning 13,000 standing spaces in the ground overall and a total capacity of roughly 20,850. How often have Leeds even come close to challenging that figure in recent seasons?

I've been in headingley late 80's and early 90's when 26k (Widnes I think) Bulls/northern 24k

Unfortunately health and safety post hillsborough will simply not allow those over crowded terrace any more. Unless/untill we can redevelep the western terrace the ground will be stuck at around 21k but with more and more scaceious comphy seats and more and better corperate hospitality.

I thought it was 8,000?
IIRC it was 10,000 but several years ago it was reduced due to the safety concerns with the stand.
I may be wrong about that though, it's just a vague recollection.

I wonder if it would be worth exploring a removeable shelter for the Away Fans? Or something with a Transparent Roof?