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| I think that's a bit harsh. He like Medley just had to be used in the right way.
Medley went alright for us with Karl Fairbank and Kelvin Skerrett looking after him.
Medley would've been superb nowadays with the game being less dirty.
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| Even now though, second rowers have to be prepared to roll their sleeves up and do the unglamorous stuff of 40 tackles a game and driving the ball away from your own line. That wasn't Medley. Didn't get interested until the ball got over halfway.
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| TBF I think you do him a bit of a disservice. He wasn't that bad.
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| With modern training & conditioning methods allied to playing mostly in the summer on better pitches Medley would likely have been an outstanding player.
His pace & size would have troubled any opposition.
Only my opinion obviously.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Eyres was good at Widnes. Not sure why he was such a flop at Leeds. Same thing with Basnett.
Big Roy was Peter Fox’s first buy in his second season at Bradford. Our defence was terrible until he arrived and he played a large part in us staying up in 91/92 season. When we added others around him later he really shone in attack too, never better than when he scored the last minute winner vs Leeds at Valley Parade in 1993.'"
Good game that. I remember having to be dragged out of the club with strippers on Manningham lane to make kick off.
As for Eyres his only issue at Leeds was that he was, like most players at that time, there purely and simply for the £££££ and he took hte urine.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Eyres was good at Widnes. Not sure why he was such a flop at Leeds. Same thing with Basnett.'"
I think the conditioning regimes at the two clubs were quite different. Can't quite figure it out but all Widnes's players seemed a stone heavier and a yard quicker than when they moved elsewhere. Perhaps something from all those chemical works had got into the water supply.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I think the conditioning regimes at the two clubs were quite different. Can't quite figure it out but all Widnes's players seemed a stone heavier and a yard quicker than when they moved elsewhere. Perhaps something from all those chemical works had got into the water supply.'"
Widnesdid seem to have an imposing presence when they ran out onto the field
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Widnesdid seem to have an imposing presence when they ran out onto the field'"
They did have a monster pack back in the late 80's with Grima, Morriarty, Sorrensen, Koloto etc..Add to that 2 centres in Andy Currier and Darren Wright (both 6"4/6"5 tall) they were huge across the park.That 87-89 team which had Offiah,Davies and Tait in too was the most complete team as iv'e seen watching RL. it just gets overlooked a bit because it didn't have the longevity of the all conquering Wigan side that succeeded it.
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| I agree. That Widnes side of 89 was probably toughest and most entertaining I’ve ever seen
Tait, Davies, Currier, Wright, Offiah, Myler, D,Hulme, Sorensen, McKenzie, Grima, O’Neill, Koloto, Holliday as a starting 13 takes some beating.
Add too the likes of Faimalo, Paul Hulme, Derek Pyke, Moriarty etc.
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| Roy Powell was a great player but he was an even better person
R.I.P Big Man
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| Quote ="G1"As for Eyres his only issue at Leeds was that he was, like most players at that time, there purely and simply for the £££££ and he took hte urine.'"
The reason was that we bought individuals and assumed that would make a great team. We had no idea what it was that made those individuals good at their previous club, never mind making any attempt to replicate that to get the best out of them.
You see this type of recruitment so often in teams desperately trying to make up ground. Salford are the obvious recent example but there are many examples throughout team sports.
As for players signing for the cash. Yeah I agree they did but that's not really their fault. It's up to the club what players get offered. More fool the club.
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| To be fair to the Leeds board, they understandably assumed Doug Laughton would be able to replicaqte the success he had with Widnes with a bunch of the same players. It was probably more that Douggie had no idea how he'd done it.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"TBF I think you do him a bit of a disservice. He wasn't that bad.'"
Medley was a specimen in the days of fat, beer belly forwards - his yellow spine would still have been an issue in this day and age, but those around him would be equally as fit and fast, so he'd have struggled more nowadays I reckon.
But then the same argument could be put towards Powell - I have to be careful here as I have fond memories of Big Roy, and could get lynched for even posing this question - but in an environment where all forwards are big, strong and athletic nowadays - is it possible Powell would have been more Ian Kirke than Sonny Bill Williams?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"To be fair to the Leeds board, they understandably assumed Doug Laughton would be able to replicaqte the success he had with Widnes with a bunch of the same players. It was probably more that Douggie had no idea how he'd done it.'"
Uncle Dougie was a great talent spotter and motivator but don't think there was a lot of what is expected today in terms of technical coaching. Back in late 90's went to see a manly v cronulla game. Et and cliff Lyons were playing. Craig innes was out injured but In programme was an interview with him. Innes said had leant more in 3 months under bob Fulton at manly than 3 years with dougie at Leeds. The main problem Laughton had at Leeds despite spending was Wigan were still better.
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| Dougie used to leave the coaching to Hanley and Mercer by all accounts.
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| Before my time is all this but we do have one massive thing to be thankful to Doug Laughton for with regards to Kevin Sinfield.
''I was quite keen on Wigan but Warrington badgered me so much that I really felt they wanted me,'' he added.
''Their chief scout was on the phone to my dad five or six times a week. I came very close to signing for them. Then Leeds came in and their coach, Doug Laughton, sold the club to me. My dad took me over to Headingley and Doug wanted me to sign there and then.
But I said I wanted my mum to be in on it, so Doug drove over to our house in Oldham the next day and I signed for Leeds. I've never regretted it. I love this club. Leeds have been very loyal to me and it has been easy to return their loyalty.''
And with that one effort from Laughton the clubs future changed forever.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Before my time is all this but we do have one massive thing to be thankful to Doug Laughton for with regards to Kevin Sinfield.
''I was quite keen on Wigan but Warrington badgered me so much that I really felt they wanted me,'' he added.
''Their chief scout was on the phone to my dad five or six times a week. I came very close to signing for them. Then Leeds came in and their coach, Doug Laughton, sold the club to me. My dad took me over to Headingley and Doug wanted me to sign there and then.
But I said I wanted my mum to be in on it, so Doug drove over to our house in Oldham the next day and I signed for Leeds. I've never regretted it. I love this club. Leeds have been very loyal to me and it has been easy to return their loyalty.''
And with that one effort from Laughton the clubs future changed forever.'"
'A simple twist of fate'
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| Bit of a common thread with Laughton signings - he turned up at Jonathan Davies's house and basically just refused to leave until he'd signed for Widnes. Heard a number of players tell the same story.
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| Yeah I've heard the same - he used the old double glazing salesman tactic of sitting it out in the front room until people feel obliged to sign up just to get rid of him so they could go to bed.
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| I heard uncle dougie took it to another level when he signed offiah. He took the great winger home to live with him and Mrs Uncle Dougie. A great rugby league character and member of that great ashes winning team down under in 1970, last time we beat the Aussies in a series.
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| signing of sinfield on rl legends too , told everyone to make a fuss of him
on schofields episode he said felt more wanted by hull
memory of medley is a try from kick off running down the touchline all the way
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"memory of medley is a try from kick off running down the touchline all the way'"
In a defeat at Central Park, IIRC?
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| thought was ns to western terrace at hq
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| tried googling it and no one could remember when it was in 2010
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