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| We have scored nearly 200 more points than anyone else. If it means Hall has to sacrifice his own figures to give more tries across the squad, then that's all we should be bothered about.
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| it's because moon isn't a wingers centre. he gets little quality service
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| Of course you need to rest players on Friday - i'd suggest about 7 or 8, specifically Hardaker, Peacock, Cutherbtson, Aiton, Hall, Briscoe and Watkins. They're all looking tired and in need of a 1 game rest.
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| It will be interesting to see how Sandow goes. Very much an unknown quantity for both sides. Don't rest players until we're sure of a top two place.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Of course you need to rest players on Friday - i'd suggest about 7 or 8, specifically Hardaker, Peacock, Cutherbtson, Aiton, Hall, Briscoe and Watkins. They're all looking tired and in need of a 1 game rest.'"
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"I wouldn't say he playing out of his skin but I know what he brings to the team what most other wingers don't in super league and that is making hard yards down the middle and giving the forwards a rest but I can't but I think his try scoring form has dropped dramatically since 2011/2012 and you do expect your wingers to score 20 plus tries a season'"
I don't care how many tries a winger scores, I'm only bothered how many tries the team scores. I'd imagine Hall's tries have been spread between him, Moon and Ablett (or whoever plays left second row), partly at least, because of Hall's presence on the wing. Moon's try on Friday a good example.
I don't think Hall was particularly playing better a couple of years ago I just think he's playing slightly differently and so is the team. It's now not just a case of passing it to Hall 10m out. We have other threats in other areas, not least of which is Watkins and Briscoe on the right with Hardaker behind.
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| Leeds are high scoring at the moment so the team dynamics must be right??
Just need a little more control in defence and we will sail through the super 8's
With the exception of Warrington and Wigan we consistently beat the rest
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| No Stevie Ward in the squad. Just Should just be Singleton in for JJB from the semi-final team.
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| A wire side who have flattered to deceive adding a player like Sandow is a big threat. He could be the spark that gets them going and I wouldn't fancy playing an in form Warrington in the play-offs.
We can't think about resting players if only for the fact that we could kill any burning embers of hope before they even get started.
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| Quote ="Him"I don't care how many tries a winger scores, I'm only bothered how many tries the team scores. I'd imagine Hall's tries have been spread between him, Moon and Ablett (or whoever plays left second row), partly at least, because of Hall's presence on the wing. Moon's try on Friday a good exampl
I don't think Hall was particularly playing better a couple of years ago I just think he's playing slightly differently and so is the team. It's now not just a case of passing it to Hall 10m out. We have other threats in other areas, not least of which is Watkins and Briscoe on the right with Hardaker behind.'"
I also care about how much tries the team scores and we have been the best attacking team all season and we have our tries spread all over the squad and don't get me wrong I think Ryan Hall is still WBW but he isn't scoring tries like he used too in my opinion
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| Part of the reason that left edge isn't contributing the tries it has in previous years IMO, is because Leeds now have a genuine threat on the other side of the pitch.
For a long period of time, Leeds were predominantly a left edge team with the likes of Webb, Lauitiiti and Senior ranging out on that side. So the right hand side was basically where the ball went early in the tackle count, with the plan then being to shift it left and let the strike runners have it in some space.
Now with Watkins and Briscoe on the right, they can run attacking plays on either side with equal chance of success.
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| No Harrison, Westwood or Atkins for Warrington, but Sandow plays.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"No Harrison, Westwood or Atkins for Warrington, but Sandow plays.'"
That's tough for them. Big players missing.
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| I will give you Harrison and Westwood but Atkins no way.
In fact I was sort of hoping he would play as Watkins has him in his pocket every time.
Let`s hope Sandow takes another game to fit in.
Shame Ward has not made the squad.
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| Walters and Handley to drop from 19 for me Singleton to take JJB spot from Cup Semi-final rest should be same
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| Surely Atkins missing is a good thing, for Warrington.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Surely Atkins missing is a good thing, for Warrington.'"
Improves spectator safety on the front couple of rows in the North and South stands though.
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| Regarding Hall and his try tally. Apart from a couple he bombed against Saints at Headingley a few weeks back.....he really hasn't had many chances to increase his total.
If he was getting plenty of chances and not taking them then that'd be a cause for concern. As it is he simply isn't getting the opportunities to be a 20+ a year scorer.
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| I've Never been worried by Hall's try output, this has been brought up several times in the last few years since he emerged on the scene scoring for fun, but that was with Senior as his centre partner.There is so much more to his game these days than tries and you always know that in the big games he is able to do things in the finishing department that most other wingers can only dream of.
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| Side's going well enough. Hall's a bit quiet, so what? He's as likely to score a couple as anyone come Friday. Ditto anyone at present. Torpedoing wire's hopes would be eminently sensible, hope the likes of cas and hudds see it that way too.
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| Rest Hall and JP? What are you all smoking? With Saints in France, this is a great opportunity to extend our lead at the top. Harrison and Westwood missing is great news for us. We should go into the game with the best pack we can and batter them. Target Sandow and use Hall as an extra forward
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| Quote ="Stevosfalseteeth"Rest Hall and JP? What are you all smoking? With Saints in France, this is a great opportunity to extend our lead at the top. Harrison and Westwood missing is great news for us. We should go into the game with the best pack we can and batter them. Target Sandow and use Hall as an extra forward'"
....nah! Hall aint scoring enough tries.....he should be made to stick rigidly to the wing just in case. After all his scoring more tries is by the far the more important issue !!!! Seriously! I have growing empathy with Loiner81 (?) ....some people are just never satisfied.
I also think Moon taking criticism for not being a 'winger's centre' is somewhat unfair too. Leeds play both left and right now because of greater threats on the right (plus Hardaker tends to link more with the right than with the left as his predcessor did).
I seem to remember Moon giving Hall plenty of good passes when the ball heads his way (if McGuire doesn't give the cut out pass that is)....he certainly gave Handley one for his second try at Langtree.... !!!!!
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| Anybody else a little nervous about tonight?
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| They are missing Westwood, Harrison, ormsby and Atkins .
Never had a better chance, though it is a shame Ward hasn't made it for us.
I think with WW and BH missing it will be harder for them to slow us down at the ptb. If Aiton can keep up his form from the last few games and we get some momentum it could be a very good win / strong performance .
My main worry is our coach will pick Walters over singleton and then not play him, handicapping our team effectively.
I think I'd start with peacock and singleton.If Sims and hill start and then go off for asotasi/ England then I'd bring on garbutt and leuluai
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"They are missing Westwood, Harrison, ormsby and Atkins .
Never had a better chance, though it is a shame Ward hasn't made it for us.
I think with WW and BH missing it will be harder for them to slow us down at the ptb. If Aiton can keep up his form from the last few games and we get some momentum it could be a very good win / strong performance .
My main worry is our coach will pick Walters over singleton and then not play him, handicapping our team effectively.
I think I'd start with peacock and singleton.If Sims and hill start and then go off for asotasi/ England then I'd bring on garbutt and leuluai'"
No Walters won't be picked unless someone is injured. Singleton will either come in at loose in place of JJB from last weeks team or on the bench with Leuluai starting at prop and Cuthbertson to LF.
Either way we'll have a much more effective bench than the one that played Warrington last time. Sinfield/Burrow/Mulhern/Achurch.....2 HB's, a young prop who was never going to big mins and a 2nd rower who was needed to play prop but never goes well there.
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