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| Quote ="Wigg'n"When has England captain Sean O'Loughlin ever punched a player?'"
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"When has England captain Sean O'Loughlin ever punched a player?'"
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| With Mental Mickey not playing, ironically due to injury, the question raised was "which of the thugs will be targeting the Saints playmakers?" We did not have long to wait, step forward Flower.
It alsmot paid off for Wigan as Saints had no other recognised playmaker.
Such behaviour in striking an unconscious player in the high street would result in a custodial sentence. However, the pie eater will no doubt be given a slap on the wrist and let off with only 2 or 3 game ban.
Wigan can play some good attacking rugby, when everything is going for them but have a disgusting habit of trying to win by injuring their opponents. Green should have been given 10 minutes for holding down and how their captain continues to go unpunished for his nasty cheap shots beggars belief
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| Karma. If you play like a team of houses eventually it will bite you. Just so Helens it but then in the boat Grange of the season. My heart bleeds for them
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| Interesting to read that saints are considering 'action outside of the game', obviously criminal proceedings. Normally I hate to hear that but really flower has left little options especially as the rfl have no backbone and will likely only dishout a 4-6 game ban.
Genuinely can't remember seeing such a disgusting cowardly action on any sportsfield. Even Luis Suarez had the good grace to only bite a concious player.
For me flower can be banned for life. I have no interest in seeing a 'player' like that. I hope he gets a prison sentence.
Such a shame as it was an otherwise tense hard game.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Interesting to read that saints are considering 'action outside of the game', obviously criminal proceedings. Normally I hate to hear that but really flower has left little options especially as the rfl have no backbone and will likely only dishout a 4-6 game ban.
Genuinely can't remember seeing such a disgusting cowardly action on any sportsfield. Even Luis Suarez had the good grace to only bite a concious player.
For me flower can be banned for life. I have no interest in seeing a 'player' like that. I hope he gets a prison sentence.
Such a shame as it was an otherwise tense hard game.'"
Totally agree - the Wayne method of injuring key opposition players is nothing less than planned actual bodily harm and should carry the penalties of common law. Both Flower and Wayne should be prosecuted in a court of law and banned from our wonderful sport.
Wayne's training room has pictures of opposition players' injuries with plans of how to attack these weak spots in every game. This is cynically planned and if it is allowed to prosper in our sport will inevitably result in permanent injury - or even death.
What will we all think then???
I for one will not watch any game that involves Wigan again...
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| That was one of the worst attacks I have ever seen on a RL field with a man on floor and clearly unable to defend himself. Nothing ever can justify that no mater what Flower thought or felt LH did to him.
Taking it in context it's much worse than anything Sinfield did with head butt, Hardaker did with his mouth and Bailey has ever done. In fact the only similar attacks were Leon Price on Sinny in CC game a few years ago when Price ran up to Sinny from behind and whacked him or Senior when he did over BJ Mather at Casleford and got away with it.
So in my opinion RFL need to make an example of Flower and Wigan thuggery so go for a 1 year ban from 1st November 2014 and compulsory anger management counselling.
Therefore in view of past experience I predict 4 match ban and brush it under carpet.
What riles me most is Gary Linekar gloating that football is such a gentlemans sport and it would never happen. Wonder if Gary Linekar remembers Roy Keane and Alf Ing-Haland. Hypocritical twonk
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| Lost respect for lineker with that comment, yes thing so like that don't happen in football, but how many rapes drink driving as salts off the field, gambling, fan violence, etr etr, yes football a real gentleman's sport.
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| You do realise Lineker was being sarcastic don't you?
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| Quote ="Him"You do realise Lineker was being sarcastic don't you?'"
Nope think he meant it
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Hohaia tried a forearm smash on flower in retaliation for Flowers late charge moments before. Flower saw red and banjo'd Hohaia, a little OTT but I can see why.
What he did next was unforgivable and the act of a cowardly b'stard, Hohaia was sparked when Flower threw that second punch.
A team of thugs with one or two exceptions but I said it a few months back and will repeat it now... Wigan are a 'win at all costs' team and play a flavour of Rugby that I personally despise.
They got what they deserved today.'"
Totally agree.
As for the 'Family Game' image last night's Wigan performance had put the final nail in that particular coffin.
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| There has to be a statement by Wigan and the RFL regarding the culture of the Wigan club
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"There has to be a statement by Wigan and the RFL regarding the culture of the Wigan club'"
They should be fined £1000 for bringing the game into disrepute.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Nope think he meant it'"
Single-celled organisms don't think.
They lack the capacity to do so.
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| Quote ="William Eve"They should be fined £1000 for bringing the game into disrepute.'"
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| Ryan Bailey...
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| Quote ="Standee"Ryan Bailey...'"
What about him, is he another player you've racially abused at a rugby ground?
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| please please please give me an example of Ryan Bailey`s thuggery that is close to being on par with this? take your time pal
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| Quote ="southern_rhino"please please please give me an example of Ryan Bailey`s thuggery that is close to being on par with this? take your time pal'"
They can't but they will try, and trawl out the usual incidents prison' faisovalo (spell check), Kevin brown.
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| I am far from a fan of Bailey, I think he is a horrible niggly coward who just picks on guys smaller than him, but even he has never done anything near to what flower has done. In my time watching and playing rugby (10 years) I have never seen anything to compare that to.
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| Well done to Ben Flower and the Wigan club who have issued an apology inside less than 24 hours since the unsavoury incident took place.
This is in stark contrast to Zak Hardaker and the Leeds club whose apologetic response to the homophobic abuse of an official took 6 days!
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| Quote ="William Eve"Well done to Ben Flower and the Wigan club who have issued an apology inside less than 24 hours since the unsavoury incident took place.
This is in stark contrast to Zak Hardaker and the Leeds club whose apologetic response to the homophobic abuse of an official took 6 days!'"
If the majority of leeds fans had laughed off the flower incident you'd be on here claiming you expected nothing less from fans who condoned homophobic abuse and what flower did was a disgrace.
You're like a robot, thou shalt have the opposite stance of whatever the popular opinion of leeds fans is. You've not made one single remark on what flower actually did you've just tried to draw comparisons with the hardaker incident to troll leeds fans, yet you roundly condemned hardaker.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"If the majority of leeds fans had laughed off the flower incident you'd be on here claiming you expected nothing less from fans who condoned homophobic abuse and what flower did was a disgrace.
You're like a robot, thou shalt have the opposite stance of whatever the popular opinion of leeds fans is. You've not made one single remark on what flower actually did you've just tried to draw comparisons with the hardaker incident to troll leeds fans, yet you roundly condemned hardaker.'"
He's a troll. You know he's a troll. He's being doing this pathetic troll act for over a decade.
Why are you still responding to him?
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"He's a troll. You know he's a troll. He's being doing this pathetic troll act for over a decade.
Why are you still responding to him?'"
Just pointing out the transparency of his modus operandi.
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| Remind me who made these comments guys?
"This has been totally out of character"
"Everybody is capable of making mistakes, that is my reaction to everybody in life."
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