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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"I think you have some massive "Believe the K0ckr@sh Hype" tinted glasses on. You think he will be your almighty Saviour but he won't.
And if you have to ask why smaller clubs couldn't compete or survive against clubs with more money than them, then I give up.'"
No, I just have the complete opposite opinion than you. As pointed out, he already is our saviour. Without him we would be no more, now were signing players like Kevin Locke.
I see you can't back-up your theory that smaller clubs would go bust. Don't they already have less money than the bigger clubs?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its worth noting that the marquee exemption has been pushed by Leeds and Gary Hetherington for years.'"
Really? I must have missed that. Do you have a cite or two?
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its also worth noting that one of the first things Gary Hetherington and Paul Caddick did at Leeds was spend a world record transfer fee on young Mr Harris.'"
Why?
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| I wish I'd have come on earlier to this thread. My Koukash Bingo card was full by the end of the first page!
I always had a lot of respect for Leeds fans but it seems your board has been infiltrated by the bell-end brigade. Hopefully it's just a small minority being loud and stupid.
By the way, 'Witty' puns on MK's name is about as old hat as the Hethrington's sex life. Do people seriously believe that they are the first numnut to come up with it?
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I wish I'd have come on earlier to this thread. My Koukash Bingo card was full by the end of the first page!
I always had a lot of respect for Leeds fans but it seems your board has been infiltrated by the bell-end brigade. Hopefully it's just a small minority being loud and stupid.
By the way, 'Witty' puns on MK's name is about as old hat as the Hethrington's sex life. Do people seriously believe that they are the first numnut to come up with it?'"
Listen Pat, if you don't like our board, what we say or how loud we are, then bore off. And just because people have a different opinion to your tinted outlook on your lover MK, doesn't make a person stupid. And someone thought of K0ckr@sh before me. But it wouldn't take much thought now, would it?
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| Oof! Lots of ammo here for Salford fans come Friday night's inevitable loss
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"But it wouldn't take much thought now, would it?'"
You said it.
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| Middleton_Loiner, is no one but Leeds able to be competitive in Super League? You're basically moaning about a man who quite frankly you seem jealous of, because he is making the league a bit more competitive. Surely stronger teams in SL makes a better competition and better entertainment. So instead of mocking someone who wants to throw money at our sport and who consistently getting Rugby League attention then please go back to watching football.
Are you really getting offended because it looks like they'll be another strong team in our sport?
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| Until Dr Koukash puts his money where his mouth is and gets an 8k+ average at Salford I'll continue to regard his views as having little credibility.
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| It's great to see that the Dr has managed to ruffle the feathers of the so called big clubs already, despite us being a lowly 10th position in the league standings. Imagine the mock outrage if we actually do something radical like make the play offs?
The long standing era of RFL standing for Rugby Football Leeds is coming to an end.
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| Come on lets get real, the games been stagnating for years, we need people from the outside who can see R.L in a different light and bring fresh ideas in like Maurice Lindsey and before him, Brian Snape, to bring up to speed with the real world
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"
The long standing era of RFL standing for Rugby Football Leeds is coming to an end.'"
Wow, seriously?
How long has this been going on then? Just the last 10 years whilst Leeds have been winning stuff i'm guessing.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"It's great to see that the Dr has managed to ruffle the feathers of the so called big clubs already, despite us being a lowly 10th position in the league standings. Imagine the mock outrage if we actually do something radical like make the play offs?
The long standing era of RFL standing for Rugby Football Leeds is coming to an end.'"
It's good to have ambition. I'm sure the good Doc will consider that a great return on his investment!
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| I think the Dr is ok. He can take things a bit far in his outbursts at times and could maybe do with a bit of self control at times but generally he's fine.
I think there is a bit of concern by other teams fans that we'll have a team storm up and take the trophies (eventually) and I don't think much of the concern is for Salford's well being if he left them.
I think he and the more ambitious thinking is what the sport needs here in the UK but at the same time it's also good that the brakes are being put on him. If he can help introduce a more positive looking competition then so be it, it just has to be done at an appropriate timescale and plan and not rushed to suit Koucash. If he and some of the other chairmen can find a middle ground then it could be very good.
I've not been one for predicting doom or his departure on Salford fans, but the rumours of Newcastle Knights would concern me if I were a Salford fan. Not that he'd give up on Salford but his focus levels on it would surely drop and the signing of the like of Locke would be slimmer in the future as that signing would surely end up at Newcastle instead in the future.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its worth noting that the marquee exemption has been pushed by Leeds and Gary Hetherington for years.
Its also worth noting that one of the first things Gary Hetherington and Paul Caddick did at Leeds was spend a world record transfer fee on young Mr Harris.'"
Good point. Now Koukash wants to do what other clubs have done in the past, many RL fans seem to go into meltdown. Probably the same people who start hash tag campaigns on twitter etc.
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| I hope Koukash makes Salford a massive force in the game. Why would any right minded rugby league fan want anything different?
I'm not sure he will short term and I'm not sure he can display the same patience to play the long game that Caddick and Hetherington did between 1997 and 2004 but it's certainly interesting watching.
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| Quote ="loiner81"Wow, seriously?
How long has this been going on then? Just the last 10 years whilst Leeds have been winning stuff i'm guessing.'"
While I share your views with that comment, its just a shame that a minority of your fans act so bitter towards us even though you keep winning silverware and we apparently won't be a team in couple of years with Marwan definite to leave us.
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| Am I alone amonst non-Salford fans in thinking that koukash coming out with sometimes outrageous statements which get airtime isn't necessarily a bad thing?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Am I alone amonst non-Salford fans in thinking that koukash coming out with sometimes outrageous statements which get airtime isn't necessarily a bad thing?'"
Not at all, I would however question how much airtime he's getting outside the RL world now though.
And I hope he doesn't believe half the stuff he comes out with.
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| I think he's good for the sport - investing in a club, bringing in fresh ideas and trying to push through things to improve the league (in terms of being exciting and interesting to other potential investors mainly).
That being said, he's also a complete and utter gobe and to say he's been involved in the sport less than 2 years he could really do to reign it in a little bit sometimes.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Am I alone amonst non-Salford fans in thinking that koukash coming out with sometimes outrageous statements which get airtime isn't necessarily a bad thing?'"
No, not at all.
Koukash, for all of his faults, actually speaks very positively and passionately about the game. He clearly wants to make things better.
I'd much rather listen to him than someone like Ian Lenaghan, who's only interest is seemingly in complaining about the governing body without actually demonstrating that he can do any better himself.
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| I hope it works out for Salford.As their fans have said without Koukash putting up the cash the club would be in the gutter. I expected them to make the play offs comfortably this season but it hasnt worked out that way at all.bringing Harris in though does now seem to be having an effect so i hope he gets the time needed to shape a squad capable of mixing it at the top, Its what the game needs.I suppose the big question is will Koukash have the required patience to see the job through for the several years it will probably take?
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I hope it works out for Salford.As their fans have said without Koukash putting up the cash the club would be in the gutter. I expected them to make the play offs comfortably this season but it hasnt worked out that way at all.bringing Harris in though does now seem to be having an effect so i hope he gets the time needed to shape a squad capable of mixing it at the top, Its what the game needs.I suppose the big question is will Koukash have the required patience to see the job through for the several years it will probably take?'"
I think that last sentence sums up most people's concerns about the good Dr.
I recall when Salford were a top team in the era of Watkins, Fielding et al & would welcome them returning to such glory days - just behind the Rhinos of course. Time was when a visit to the Willows on a Sunday afternoon was one of the best away days of the season. Provided you found your car undamaged at the end of the match.
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| I really don’t think that there is much animosity towards Salford fans in general and I certainly don’t think that many of us are jealous of Kashcow – we have our own significantly wealthy backer thank you.
It’s just the way the ‘Good Doctor’ has come into RL from nowhere and started shouting his mouth off, trying to dictate how the sport should be run just because he has a healthy bank balance. He’s acting like a spoilt child, getting all prissy when things aren’t going his way.
The way he has treated Noble kinda indicates his short-termist expectations, he’s put a shed load of cash in and wants something out… now and he’ll p[size=100i[/sizess and moan about it until he gets his way.
This is why, IMO, he’ll not be around for the long term.
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Quote ="Charlie Sierra"Really? I must have missed that. Do you have a cite or two?
Why?'"
It seems a bit hypocritical to criticise Koukash for looking make a splash by spending the cash when that is exactly what we did.
Hetherington said: "We proposed this a few years ago and didn't get the support of enough clubs. But it's been brought up again by Marwan, and there are people at other clubs like Simon Moran at Warrington and Ken Davy at Huddersfield who have the private income to spend more than they are currently allowed without jeopardising the stability of their clubs
www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players
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Why?'"
It seems a bit hypocritical to criticise Koukash for looking make a splash by spending the cash when that is exactly what we did.
Hetherington said: "We proposed this a few years ago and didn't get the support of enough clubs. But it's been brought up again by Marwan, and there are people at other clubs like Simon Moran at Warrington and Ken Davy at Huddersfield who have the private income to spend more than they are currently allowed without jeopardising the stability of their clubs
www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players
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| Good luck to him and Salford. For the good of the game I hope he can make them competitive and keep them there - because, for the good of the game, we've been crying out for it (a good quality competition) for years. I'm not privvy to what's going on behind the scenes but I hope he's putting plans in place to produce his own top class talent. There's nothing wrong with someone coming into a club and getting the best players he can, but I'm sure their fans would appreciate 'their own' coming through just as much.
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