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| Walters did well apart from the mcgillvary try, Delaney was shouting at him to go for the winger but he hesitated and left it too late.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Walters did well apart from the mcgillvary try, Delaney was shouting at him to go for the winger but he hesitated and left it too late.'"
Don't agree with that at all. We were sat above that, and no way he could have got there, the overlap was too big, and Delaney didn't do that.
That is not defending the player, more the situation, which I don't think would have been stopped at all. The weakness was in the middle and to the right side defence, for that try.
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| Regarding Sinfield, this point in his career is very similar to the situation Peacock was in during 2012.
After all the pressure and spotlight of being the captain during a home World Cup I think he needs a break, more mentally than physically.
I know he said he's going to keep playing for England but I think he needs to seriously take a look at what his teammate did (and has done since) and retire from international duty and have a clear off season.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I know he said he's going to keep playing for England but I think he needs to seriously take a look at what his teammate did (and has done since) and retire from international duty and have a clear off season.'"
I doubt he'll need to make that choice.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Don't agree with that at all. We were sat above that, and no way he could have got there, the overlap was too big, and Delaney didn't do that.
That is not defending the player, more the situation, which I don't think would have been stopped at all. The weakness was in the middle and to the right side defence, for that try.'"
OK guess we will just have to disagree on that one, Delaney definitely pointed at the winger.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I doubt he'll need to make that choice.'"
I hope McNamara doesn't select him for the reason I listed above. However, McNamara picked JJB in the training squad last week even though he's been out virtually all year and most of the 2nd half of 2013.....do you honestly think he won't pick Sinfield if Sinfield puts his hand up for selection.
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| Danny brough could have played the game in his dinner jacket.
Why do leeds always give opposition kickers the freedom of the city, yet our kickers are continually rushed by the opposition.
It's obviously a tactic as it's very pronounced how they don't rush in on the kicker.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Danny brough could have played the game in his dinner jacket.
Why do leeds always give opposition kickers the freedom of the city, yet our kickers are continually rushed by the opposition.
It's obviously a tactic as it's very pronounced how they don't rush in on the kicker.'"
Our distinct lack of kick pressure is so frustrating
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"Our distinct lack of kick pressure is so frustrating'"
I know, but it's obvious they are instructed not to apply pressure.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"I know, but it's obvious they are instructed not to apply pressure.'"
But why? It just allows the opposition to get a better kick away and therefore put us under more pressure
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Danny brough could have played the game in his dinner jacket.
Why do leeds always give opposition kickers the freedom of the city, yet our kickers are continually rushed by the opposition.
It's obviously a tactic as it's very pronounced how they don't rush in on the kicker.'"
Brough must love playing Leeds....Leeds never seem to have a clue as to how to handle him.
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| Apart from a couple of good kicks which were aided by some shoddy full back play from BJB I thought Brough was pretty shocking, I agree that the lack of kick pressure is frustrating. I also think our slow PTBs don't help.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Apart from a couple of good kicks which were aided by some shoddy full back play from BJB I thought Brough was pretty shocking, I agree that the lack of kick pressure is frustrating. I also think our slow PTBs don't help.'"
You've obviously overlooked his chase back to prevent Briscoe scoring the matchwinning try.
Not that I agree with your statement anyway. I wish we'd had a halfback who in your terms played as badly as Brough.
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| He didn't prevent it though. The VR disallowed it, and it was a 50 50 call.
It was mixed bag from Brough, some good kicks aided by poor full back play, but also plenty of wayward passes, and average kicks too. He was the best half back in the game, but that isn't exactly saying much.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"[uHe didn't prevent it though.[/u The VR disallowed it, and it was a 50 50 call.
It was mixed bag from Brough, some good kicks aided by poor full back play, but also plenty of wayward passes, and average kicks too. He was the best half back in the game, but that isn't exactly saying much.'"
What?
Are you saying that had he not chased back the try would still have been disallowed?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"What?
Are you saying that had he not chased back the try would still have been disallowed?'"
There [imust be[/i personality clash issues I guess with regards to Brough and the number of clubs he has lent his services to......
BUT if we had a man of his mercurial talents (and pace) slotting in at half back my gods we'd see a lot more of our classy 1 to 5 being brought into play and more chances of success in the opposition 20 (his kicking game is something we badly miss). .... providing we had the forwards to lay the platform of course. Ahem! Cough!
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| Danny brough was not at his best and a couple of 40/20s were aided by bishops hesitance in fielding kicks. Apart from a few kicks he was average, the best half back on the field yes, largely down to ours being way off the money.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
BUT if we had a man of his mercurial talents (and pace) slotting in at half back my gods we'd see a lot more of our classy 1 to 5 being brought into play and more chances of success in the opposition 20 (his kicking game is something we badly miss). .... providing we had the forwards to lay the platform of course. Ahem! Cough!'"
Wow you're fickle. You were praising the whole squad including the coach a couple of weeks ago. Balls to Brough, he's a dummy spitter who's never performed when it matters and never will. The grass isn't always greener.
Leeds were scoring tries for fun up until the recent & annual dip in form, have the best defence in the league, are in the CC semis, pretty much nailed on for a top two finish and haven't even got out of 3rd gear yet. The next few weeks leading up to the semi should see us easily go on an unbeaten run with all injured & banned players returning in time for Warrington. If we pick up any more injuries then Luke Briscoe, Ward and Walters are more than capable.
8 players out with 5 kids playing and Hudds still only won due to Sinfield missing a goal that he'd usually kick 99 times out of 100. If Zak played we'd have won at a canter.
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| Quote ="loiner81"Wow you're fickle. You were praising the whole squad including the coach a couple of weeks ago. Balls to Brough, he's a dummy spitter who's never performed when it matters and never will. The grass isn't always greener.
Leeds were scoring tries for fun up until the recent & annual dip in form, have the best defence in the league, are in the CC semis, pretty much nailed on for a top two finish and haven't even got out of 3rd gear yet. The next few weeks leading up to the semi should see us easily go on an unbeaten run with all injured & banned players returning in time for Warrington. If we pick up any more injuries then Luke Briscoe, Ward and Walters are more than capable.
8 players out with 5 kids playing and Hudds still only won due to Sinfield missing a goal that he'd usually kick 99 times out of 100. If Zak played we'd have won at a canter.'"
"Fickle"? Not at all. At no point have I suggested we should try to recruit Brough.
I simply stated with a man of his talents and capabilities at half back we would be in a better position with regards to a far better kicking game and bringing our 1 to 5 into play.
I have sufficient faith this season in the club, playing staff and its coaching to forecast that come the business end of the season, Leeds will at long last win the CC and also have the ability to win another championship GF. The defence as you state has being improved immeasurably this season. Great to see.
That's not to stay there is still improvement that could be made in all areas: coaching and playing staff. To say otherwise would be foolish.
Seeing the likes of Robbie Ward and Walters being brought into the team can only do good for the business end of the season. Both look like they could have a good future.
Now if only we could pension of Kirke
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| Quote ="loiner81"Wow you're fickle. You were praising the whole squad including the coach a couple of weeks ago. Balls to Brough, he's a dummy spitter who's never performed when it matters and never will. The grass isn't always greener.
Leeds were scoring tries for fun up until the recent & annual dip in form, have the best defence in the league, are in the CC semis, pretty much nailed on for a top two finish and haven't even got out of 3rd gear yet. The next few weeks leading up to the semi should see us easily go on an unbeaten run with all injured & banned players returning in time for Warrington. If we pick up any more injuries then Luke Briscoe, Ward and Walters are more than capable.
8 players out with 5 kids playing and Hudds still only won due to Sinfield missing a goal that he'd usually kick 99 times out of 100. If Zak played we'd have won at a canter.'"
Your that good that had Peacock deservedly got a red card against Leigh you'd be out of the cup. Nailed on for a top 2 finish? dont get ahead of yourself just yet, lots can happen between now and October
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Your that good that had Peacock deservedly got a red card against Leigh you'd be out of the cup. Nailed on for a top 2 finish? dont get ahead of yourself just yet, lots can happen between now and October'"
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Your that good that had Peacock deservedly got a red card against Leigh you'd be out of the cup. Nailed on for a top 2 finish? dont get ahead of yourself just yet, lots can happen between now and October'"
But he didn't and we're not. He wasn't even banned by the RFL so it obviously wasn't deemed to be worthy of a red card either.
And as for what's going to happen between now and October. Yes, a lot can happen and I can guarantee at least 2 things. Your lot won't be at Wembley and you'll get knocked out of the play offs by some no hopers like Hull KR following a huge choke by Scotland's finest.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile""Fickle"? Not at all. At no point have I suggested we should try to recruit Brough.
I simply stated with a man of his talents and capabilities at half back we would be in a better position with regards to a far better kicking game and bringing our 1 to 5 into play. '"
We've got one of the best kickers and organisers in the game, someone who very rarely goes missing when it matters and I've no doubt he'll hit top form again soon enough.
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If only
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Your that good that had Peacock deservedly got a red card against Leigh you'd be out of the cup. Nailed on for a top 2 finish? dont get ahead of yourself just yet, lots can happen between now and October'"
Hello you're back
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| Leeds recent form hasn't so far been that damaging with saints losing. They'll be 1 point behind Wigan if they win their game in hand and are 1 point behind saints which effectively puts them 3rd. They need to start winning again and fast otherwise one of saints or Wigan will put daylight between us.
Leeds need to keep themselves in that top 2 and just keep plugging away until the guns return
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