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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It's always amusing to see you resort to guessing alleged usernames in response to a post.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I'll take that response as a yes/affirmative answer to both my questions.'"
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This William Eve mush is going for it tonight.Anyway looking forward to coming home for this hope I'm not too jetlagged
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Shaun Wane said at the press conf today that Flower, Pettybourne & Thornley will not play on Friday.
Those returning after the Hunslet game are Goulding, Burgess, Green, Dudson, McIlorum & O'Loughlin.
Squads named tomorrow so should be interesting to see the fringe players who will be included and those not.
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I'd guess we'll put out:
1. Hardaker
20. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
21. Sutcliffe
6. McGuire
8. Leuluai
13. Sinfield
10. Peacock
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| Quote ="Worlds Apart"I'd guess we'll put out:
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20. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
21. Sutcliffe
6. McGuire
8. Leuluai
13. Sinfield
10. Peacock
19. Achurch
12. Ablett
15. Delaney
16. Bailey
18. Clarkson
23. Singleton
28. R Ward'"
How could mighty Kirke be omitted after charging through Amor?
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Prop Ryan Bailey, winger Ben Jones-Bishop and back rower Stevie Ward have all been added to the squad that defeated St Helens last Saturday for this Friday's clash with Wigan at Headingley Carnegie.
Bailey was eighteenth man in the Cup game but with Rob Burrow ruled out following his broken collar bone, he could be in contention to return for his 299th game for the Rhinos.
Ward has been out since suffering a leg injury in the win over Bradford on Easter Thursday but is in contention to return against the Warriors whilst Jones-Bishop missed out on the win over Saints last week but has been a regular in recent weeks.
The 19 man squad in full is:
1 Zak Hardaker
2 Ben Jones-Bishop
3 Kallum Watkins
4 Joel Moon
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
8 Kylie Leuluai
10 Jamie Peacock
12 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield (c)
14 Stevie Ward
15 Brett Delaney
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
18 Chris Clarkson
19 Mitch Achurch
20 Tom Briscoe
21 Liam Sutcliffe
23 Brad Singleton
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Wigan Warriors have today named their 19 man squad to face Leeds Rhinos at Headingley-Carnegie on Friday night in the First Utility Super League, 8pm kick off.
The Warriors welcome back Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, Michael McIlorum and Skipper Sean O'Loughlin (pictured) who were all rested for the Cup game against Hunslet while Prop Gil Dudson is back in the squad after serving a one game suspension.
The players to miss out through injury are Iain Thornley, Ben Flower, Eddy Pettybourne and Josh Charnley.
Wigan 19 Man Squad (in alphabetical order)
25 John Bateman, 1 Matty Bowen, 32 Joe Burgess, 24 Tony Clubb, 17 Dom Crosby, 16 Gil Dudson, 12 Liam Farrell, 5 Anthony Gelling, 3 Darrell Goulding, 6 Blake Green, 14 Jack Hughes, 28 Jordan James, 9 Michael McIlorum, 13 Sean O'Loughlin, 19 Sam Powell, 23 Dan Sarginson, 7 Matty Smith, 8 Scott Taylor, 27 George Williams
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Wigan Warriors have today named their 19 man squad to face Leeds Rhinos at Headingley-Carnegie on Friday night in the First Utility Super League, 8pm kick off.
The Warriors welcome back Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, Michael McIlorum and Skipper Sean O'Loughlin (pictured) who were all rested for the Cup game against Hunslet while Prop Gil Dudson is back in the squad after serving a one game suspension.
The players to miss out through injury are Iain Thornley, Ben Flower, Eddy Pettybourne and Josh Charnley.
Wigan 19 Man Squad (in alphabetical order)
25 John Bateman, 1 Matty Bowen, 32 Joe Burgess, 24 Tony Clubb, 17 Dom Crosby, 16 Gil Dudson, 12 Liam Farrell, 5 Anthony Gelling, 3 Darrell Goulding, 6 Blake Green, 14 Jack Hughes, 28 Jordan James, 9 Michael McIlorum, 13 Sean O'Loughlin, 19 Sam Powell, 23 Dan Sarginson, 7 Matty Smith, 8 Scott Taylor, 27 George Williams
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I have a sneaky feeling hardaker will go to 6 and BJB to 1.
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Looking forward to this one, no idea which way it will go but should be a good game
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| Quote ="rhinos21"I have a sneaky feeling hardaker will go to 6 and BJB to 1.'"
I have a sneaky feeling that you just watched SL Backchat...  |
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Should be a good battle in the second row. Ablett is getting into really good form and Wigan have a good pair in Farrell and Bateman. Big game (and few weeks) for Achurch to see how he goes against the tougher opposition.
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*Some* of us were saying this before Backchat was recorded... |
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Nope i dont have sky. |
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Should be a good battle in the second row. Ablett is getting into really good form and Wigan have a good pair in Farrell and Bateman. Big game (and few weeks) for Achurch to see how he goes against the tougher opposition.'"
How do you determine form? serious question.
He has had a really good season, really good. He was fantastic against Saint Helens. But he was really dissapointing against Salford (where he looked very tired and beaten), and against the Bulls he was nothing close to what he has produced this year.
Personally, I think for the season so far, he is possibly our player of year so far. But two out of the last three games, he has being nothing close to it (so interested in the comment of getting into good form). I feel he needs a rest badly or his form his going to suffer. Although I do accept, I would rather that not against Wigan. |
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Unbelievably I never thought I would say this but I agree completely with Gotcha regarding Achurch (we seem to differ in opinion most of the time) and that the guy seems shattered. If the rhinos are rotating the backline, halves and rotating the props then I don't see why should not do the same with the second row positions. Also would like to see Sutcliffe stay at LF from the bench. The team I would like to see:
BJB
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
McGuire
Hardaker
Leuluai
Sinfield
Peacock
Ablett
Delaney
Bailey
Subs Kirke, Clarkson, Sutcliffe and singleton.
But what I expect is BJB and on recent games Bailey to be dropped(still on the naughty step I guess). With Sutcliffe in the halves and Sinfield go hooker. Anyway hope it is a cracker.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"How do you determine form? serious question.
He has had a really good season, really good. He was fantastic against Saint Helens. But he was really dissapointing against Salford (where he looked very tired and beaten), and against the Bulls he was nothing close to what he has produced this year.
Personally, I think for the season so far, he is possibly our player of year so far. But two out of the last three games, he has being nothing close to it (so interested in the comment of getting into good form). I feel he needs a rest badly or his form his going to suffer. Although I do accept, I would rather that not against Wigan.'"
As in the usual way anyone determines form, based upon recent games.
Granted actually the Salford game he wasn't at his best but as I mentioned on the post match thread, due to the short turnaround I don't hold much weight to performances (team or individual) in the Easter Monday games, it's often not great but just a case of getting through.
Bradford he went for a season best (by some distance) 157 yards so can't agree with you on that. In fact I'd say his first few games of the year I was slightly disappointed. Averaged less than 11 carries per game for the opening 5 games with only a 67 yard per game average. Not only was he very good vs Saints on Saturday but had another good showing against them in the league game a few weeks back.
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| Quote ="sparkles"Unbelievably I never thought I would say this but I agree completely with Gotcha regarding Achurch (we seem to differ in opinion most of the time) and that the guy seems shattered. If the rhinos are rotating the backline, halves and rotating the props then I don't see why should not do the same with the second row positions. Also would like to see Sutcliffe stay at LF from the bench. The team I would like to see:
BJB
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
McGuire
Hardaker
Leuluai
Sinfield
Peacock
Ablett
Delaney
Bailey
Subs Kirke, Clarkson, Sutcliffe and singleton.
But what I expect is BJB and on recent games Bailey to be dropped(still on the naughty step I guess). With Sutcliffe in the halves and Sinfield go hooker. Anyway hope it is a cracker.'"
Don't think you are agreeing with him to be honest. I believe his comments were aimed at ablett being knackered.
I can have some sympathy for this view as at Salford he did look knackered. But last week looked strong again having a cracking year. Could probably do with a break at some point but as gotcha says Wigan isn't the game to rest him |
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Ablett's a very good centre. But I can't shake the belief that we're seeing what happens when he gets to play in the back row consistently for a long period of time. I have no scientific evidence for this. Just a feeling.
Either way, Ablett's a terrific player, and very under rated in my opinion.
I'm still not entirely sold on Achurch, but he looks a lot better this season. He's a big unit, and has plenty of speed for his size, power, and can offload. I get the impression that the raw materials are there and that the key is getting him to focus on doing the little nitty gritty things well. Progress encouraging, jury out, from what I've seen.
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I only saw a bit of Achurch last year, and he was very dynamic against the Broncos - ironically making one great break right through the middle of the defence. It seems odd if Leeds have tried to turn him into a hard-working prop, when he was a damaging second row probably more suited to shorter spells from what I saw.
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Wrt to Achurch he is better suited to be a wide running SR imo rather than a bit part Prop.
I think he has shown some decent potential to kick on and is in the 13 on merit long may it continue.
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| As I have stated before I really do hope McDermott will continue to select Hardaker at FB where he is continuing to progress nicely into the best all round FB I have seen in a long time. He is one that should now be cemented as a first choice on the team sheet ( above the likes of other so called "senior players" ) ..
I would rather see Sutcliffe or Ward at stand off for this one
Maybe BJB on the bench knowing that Sutcliffe and Ward can be switched into the pack ( at LF please ). Moon to SO
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"As I have stated before I really do hope McDermott will continue to select Hardaker at FB where he is continuing to progress nicely into the best all round FB I have seen in a long time. He is one that should now be cemented as a first choice on the team sheet ( above the likes of other so called "senior players" ) ..
I would rather see Sutcliffe or Ward at stand off for this one
Maybe BJB on the bench knowing that Sutcliffe and Ward can be switched into the pack ( at LF please ). Moon to SO
Then again if Hardaker IS selected at SO it would be nice to say to G1 " I told you so ".
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 You, I suspect Nantwich were the type of child who used to ring peoples doorbells before legging it off down the street!
Hardaker should remain at fullback for me. period. I am also fairly relaxed about Ablett. Yes, he was off his game against Salford, but current form is good and is almost an automatic name on the teamsheet. In any case, BMD will go his own sweet way, so I am not going to get upset about any surprises he may reveal. |
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Would opt for Sutcliffe to start in the halves but wouldn't mind the other option of Hardaker with BJB to FB either. Said previously I wouldn't want to shift Hardaker away from FB, but that was in relation to him going to centre, to 6 could be interesting.
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