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| Sutcliffe can go on to be a Leeds leg-end.
(Geddit? Leg. End? Eh? No? **** off then)
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Sutcliffe can go on to be a Leeds leg-end.
(Geddit? Leg. End? Eh? No? **** off then)'"
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| Well done Foster great game.
Did Sutcliffe play. Never saw him apart from that one try.
Hope he doesn't come to Hunslet next season we don't want to be carrying players like him.
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| Quote ="W55ARE"Well done Foster great game.
Did Sutcliffe play. Never saw him apart from that one try.
Hope he doesn't come to Hunslet next season we don't want to be carrying players like him.'"
Don't be a pillock. There's too many on this board as it is.
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| Hang on die hard fan. Take a look outside the rose tinted glasses.
He did f all in the last 60 minutes of the game. I mean nothing. Yes he's young and will come on but to sit back and not get involved like he did is a joke.
Lazy player.
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| Quote ="W55ARE"Hang on die hard fan. Take a look outside the rose tinted glasses.
He did f all in the last 60 minutes of the game. I mean nothing. Yes he's young and will come on but to sit back and not get involved like he did is a joke.
Lazy player.'"
I saw him involved in plenty of Leeds plays in the last 60 mins. What exactly were you expecting from a young, inexperienced half playing in a secondary role behind Burrow, playing behind a young pack often on the back foot, away at Warrington?
Your comment regarding him and Hunslet shows you up. Criticise his performance if you want, just don't be such a pillock with it.
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| Quote ="W55ARE"Well done Foster great game.
Did Sutcliffe play. Never saw him apart from that one try.
Hope he doesn't come to Hunslet next season we don't want to be carrying players like him.'"
Are you blind?
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| Quote ="W55ARE"Well done Foster great game.
Did Sutcliffe play. Never saw him apart from that one try.
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Which try? The one he scored or the one he set up for Hardaker.
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| I love it, A Hunslet mug slating one of our players
Don't worry, Joe Vickery is still ready for you
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| Sutcliffe was not as involved anywhere near enough. That is to be expected. The coach himself has said Sutcliffe needs to work on his game management and he does. Still looks class to me.
However, this does put real pressure on Burrow, especially when he also has to cover Dummy half. If Harrigan was an objective poster like he claims he would recognise that in his usual rabid barbs about Burrow.
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| Quote ="G1"Sutcliffe was not as involved anywhere near enough. That is to be expected. The coach himself has said Sutcliffe needs to work on his game management and he does. Still looks class to me.
However, this does put real pressure on Burrow, especially when he also has to cover Dummy half. If Harrigan was an objective poster like he claims he would recognise that in his usual rabid barbs about Burrow.'"
Agreed.sutcliffe is still a fair way off being at the level where we can expect him to go to places like warrington and control the game in the way a sinfield can.he is showing more than enough glimpses of class though and these experiences he is getting at his age will pay off down the line for him and the club.
As you say,this means burrow has a lot more responsability,and from what i have seen he is doing a good job.
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| Quote ="G1"Sutcliffe was not as involved anywhere near enough. That is to be expected. The coach himself has said Sutcliffe needs to work on his game management and he does. Still looks class to me.
However, this does put real pressure on Burrow, especially when he also has to cover Dummy half. If Harrigan was an objective poster like he claims he would recognise that in his usual rabid barbs about Burrow.'"
Absolutely agree.
I'm glad for Burrow that he is being given the chance to show his credentials far away from being the 80 mins hooker he is most def. not.....again unfortunately due only to injuries.
Of the "essential" triumvirate of recent years I would only prioritise the retention of Sinfield (at LF) foremost over Burrow. McGuire will be even less of a threat after his latest injury: Sutcliffe is his replacement.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Absolutely agree.
I'm glad for Burrow that he is being given the chance to show his credentials far away from being the 80 mins hooker he is most def. not.....again unfortunately due only to injuries.
Of the "essential" triumvirate of recent years I would only prioritise the retention of Sinfield (at LF) foremost over Burrow. McGuire will be even less of a threat after his latest injury: Sutcliffe is his replacement.'"
I know you and a few others on here think sinfield should go back to 13 however we all know that wont ever happen now.so what do you think we should do when ward is fit aswell as sinfield? who gets the 13 shirt out of sutcliffe,ward and singleton who has been going well in the Position.
I cant see sutcliffe as a 7,infact he may even end up as a 13 long term IMO.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I know you and a few others on here think sinfield should go back to 13 however we all know that wont ever happen now.so what do you think we should do when ward is fit aswell as sinfield? who gets the 13 shirt out of sutcliffe,ward and singleton who has been going well in the Position.
I cant see sutcliffe as a 7,infact he may even end up as a 13 long term IMO.'"
Over complicating things a bit there.
Sinfield to 13, Ward in back row with Ablett, and Singleton at prop which he is. That's what it should be.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Over complicating things a bit there.
Sinfield to 13, Ward in back row with Ablett, and Singleton at prop which he is. That's what it should be.'"
Agh,not saying i disagree with moving sinfield back to 13 but it wont happen,so like i say,one shirt is realisticaly up for grabs assuming burrow stays at 7 which i think he will as he has gone well lately as has mcshane at 9.
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| Did I miss something?
Did Sutcliffe and Minns propose to move clubs if they did not get a first team game in the last couple of months?
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| I think it's a bit much to expect Sutcliffe to come in and be the main game manager at this stage in his career.
I thought he looked very comfortable in that environment actually. He looks capable of making things happen, gets himself in the right place when chances come along and isn't shy in defence when things are a bit attritional.
Not sure what people were expecting of the kid really. I was really impressed with him again.
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| Young player taking on the most difficult position on the roster, gets are starting position for three games and scores five tries. Not only that but, one of the games is against top class opposition. Leeds fans critical!
You couldn't make it up!
If Sinfield doesn't revert back to loose forward on his return, there is something very wrong with our team set up.
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| Quote ="Ronzy"If Sinfield doesn't revert back to loose forward on his return, there is something very wrong with our team set up.'"
The lad's done brilliantly (undeniably) but he is not going to oust Sinfield from the halves.
He's still young, he's proved he's got a bright future so no need to rush him into play off rugby as our starting 6 unless we really have to.
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| I'd be tempted to play Sutcliffe at 13 when Sinfield is back. Use them interchangeably, and maybe rotate Sutcliffe with Bailey if you want a ball carrier there.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I'd be tempted to play Sutcliffe at 13 when Sinfield is back. Use them interchangeably, and maybe rotate Sutcliffe with Bailey if you want a ball carrier there.'"
Yes thats the way i would use Sutcliffe.We have a strong looking pack and a more than useful bench with everyone fit.This is how i would go:
8.Kylie
9.Mcshane
10.Peacock
11.Delaney
12.Ablett
13.JJB
14.Sutcliffe
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"The lad's done brilliantly (undeniably) but he is not going to oust Sinfield from the halves.
He's still young, he's proved he's got a bright future so no need to rush him into play off rugby as our starting 6 unless we really have to.'"
In my opinion, fwiw, he is already one of the best options we have at pivot. As much as I am grateful for what McGuire has achieved and like him as a player, he has not really been on top form this year and, as someone has already suggested, this latest injury is likely to only exacerbate his problems.
I would also suggest that utcliffe looks more like a stand off than a loose forward.
He has the talent and needs to learn his trade. He isn't going to do that by playing out of position and subjected to the higher physical demands of playing in the forwards. If the best option for the team is that Sinfield reverts back to loose forward, then that is what he should do. Whether he does or not is another matter, and I would tend to agree with your belief that he will not.
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| It doesn't matter which number they have on their backs - when Sinfield is back he'll occupy his usual position on the field and Sutcliffe will move to accommodate him.
Personally, from what little I've seen of Sutcliffe I've been impressed. He has got good hands and strength and can read a game. He's playing probably the most difficult position for a youngster to play, but ticks more of the boxes for a stand off than most players ten years older.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"It doesn't matter which number they have on their backs - when Sinfield is back he'll occupy his usual position on the field and Sutcliffe will move to accommodate him.
Personally, from what little I've seen of Sutcliffe I've been impressed. He has got good hands and strength and can read a game. He's playing probably the most difficult position for a youngster to play, but ticks more of the boxes for a stand off than most players ten years older.'"
Is it ambitious to say that he reminds me a little bit of a young Paul Sculthorpe? I will immediately caveat it by saying he clearly has a long way to go to reach Sculthorpe's level, before anyone starts.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Is it ambitious to say that he reminds me a little bit of a young Paul Sculthorpe? I will immediately caveat it by saying he clearly has a long way to go to reach Sculthorpe's level, before anyone starts.'"
I would say that is ambitious.
When people talk of once in a generation player, I sometimes think they are been far too picky. You get a lot of quality players each and every year coming through. However, the likes of a Sculthorpe are indeed few and far between.
Same kind of build though, so I can see where you are going.
Pinning all future tie down of the stand off role on Sutcliffe, may end up not been fulfilled. From what I hear, Lilley in the under 16's is better still, and not that far behind in years.
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