Reading the article i posted above (and others) would suggest that Leeds had agreed terms with Huddersfield but not with Lunt.

If £45K is the Leeds CEO's going rate for an international player at Headingley then they probably won't even be troubling a salary cap set at a million never mind nearer to two. Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

I am assuming the way this is written in a curt and direct way, you must work at Rhinos? I didn't make rash decisions over raw deals, I simply stated my opionion!!! Do you know if you say to a police man "In my opinion you are nob" he cannot do any thing about it. But if you say "you are a nob" then that is slander and punishable. So the post was simply my opinion.

If there is a phone number where I could contact BM and ask him why this and why that then I would love to. But it seems the only way of doing that is posting on here and hoping he reads it



I don't know best, but I do know some of these individuals personally - and I categorically confirm that they believe they have had a raw deal.

SpongeBob SquarePants is far too big to be a hooker for the Leeds Rhinos. If you're going for a character in that series, Plankton is your man.

That pun is a week too late I'm afraid.

Well they would, wouldn't they.

It was more down to his size than simply getting him for the Cod's game, but point taken.

This.

I'm also quite fed up of the 'hilarious' nicknames for the man that's coached the team to the last two Super League titles. It's really wearing thin.

I hope you don't think I'm being pedantic, but believing you've had a raw deal and actually having had one are actually subtly different.

Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to het ya'

An excellent point, well made.

So, in summary, there is a perceived problem with the Rhinos' recent results. This has been attributed to the coach's perceived failure to rotate talented, young players into the squad; this despite:

1. McDermott's inclusion of a number of talented, young players in the squad in recent weeks;
2. The disparity between the information regarding player selection available to a coach and that available to a spectator;
3. Any proposition that "if such-and-such a player had been included the outcome would be different" being untestable;
4. The existence of more compelling causality relating to present form i.e. injury to pivotal players.

Despite his track record of winning the biggest prize in the domestic game, based on this analysis McDermott is a poor coach.

Got it.

Fair enough, perhaps my post was worded a bit directly - but you get my point. There's a lot more to it than meets the eye so just take that into consideration!

Also to be honest, and as others have picked up on, when you feel the need to use 'Mcdonut' i don't really feel obliged to sugar coat my responses to you.

Agreed, it's all getting a bit tedious now

I wouldn't say it to his face mind !

So why are you still here then? Nothing better to do?

Not sure how anybody can disagree really.

Rather than Watson and Chisholm/etc we moved a classy centre with very little FB experience (and it showed) in Hardaker's absence and played well you-know-who on the wing instead of one that at least has some pace to qualify being called a 'winger'. Hard to comprehend why.....but hey, coach always knows best.

Hood was purported to be a better prospect than McShane at one stage: both must be pretty - understandably - disappointed that the coach has persisted with our little pocket rocket, despite continued hardly impressive displays in the highly important role.

Singleton and Sutcliffe at last seem to be getting the breakthrough, but ONLY because of injuries and not because of any loss of form from the first choice 17.

My only real problem with BMcD's selection policy is with his choice of winger. I really can't believe that we've nothing better than Vickery in the young-uns.

We have. At least from the view of more than one respected?? poster on here. It beggars belief that one certain he-that-should-not-be-named is given repeated opportunities when there [i[uis[/u[/i a choice and none of the others are given any opportunity at all.

Yeah yeah yeah I sound like a worn out old record. Time for me to go get my tea.

Singleton has moved up from 7th choice prop at the start of the year to 5th with him jumping ahead of Moore and Griffin being got rid of. He has a chance now to go ahead of Kirke and Bailey with these run of games he's getting. Sutcliffe was getting named 18th man before we picked up injuries and was on the verge of his debut regardless. Ward broke into the team last year and it wasn't as a result of a injury crisis.

And young players getting a chance through injuries is often the case, would Wigan and Saints youngsters played as much if they always had everyone fit?

Also people keep going on about what kind of message it sends to the U19's that he sticks with his first teamers even if they have a bad spell. Well what kind of message does it send to first teamers if they're so easily replaced by an U19 with no SL experience. They get backed to come good and find form in a way that tells the player he's important....not easily replaced by the first 18 year old that comes along. Maybe the coach showing so much faith and confidence in them is what has helped them back themselves come Playoff time.

It might not be textbook how things are done at Leeds, but I believe everyone (or team in this case) shouldn't go with what is textbook and what 'others' would do. Find a plan/route/way that works for you....and it pretty much has for Leeds even in these last 2 years.

The op's opening title of Rhinos Forgotten Generation is quite apt IMO as we've not really had any player that has been released from the Rhinos that has then come back to prove the club wrong as of yet.
I also agree that we have to regularly let some very talented junior players leave the club,but i believe that they are handed a very clear pathway to progress in their RL careers either in SL or in the Championship due to the coaching and the life skills they receive at the club
Some very interesting times at present though due to the restructuring of the academy competition and who will be retained by the club come the seasons end,but i have to put my faith in our clubs coaching staff to again make the correct calls

That's the problem. Your ideas aren't (all) totally wacky, but you refuse to acknowledge any other point of view. It's either your view, or it's utter madness that can't possibly be justified.

Or it could be sending a message to regular first team players that regardless of how you play you will be selected. Not healthy IMO to know you are garanteed to play regardless of your form?

Not sure that's entirely fair



I like to think I have an open mind and can be persuaded to alter my opinion with a persuasive powerful counter view....... my Irish roots uprbringing means I was indoctrinated into the catholic faith; powerful logic and reason from others persuaded me I was a buffoon for believing such dogma. I've never looked back since. (I'm now a conceited arrogant protestant)

Life isn't fair kiddo. Get used to it.