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| Wane for me
I think he was found lacking when it came to the big games last year, I also don't think wigan look as strong on paper as they did last year and the expectation that comes with a club like wigan I think he will be under pressure from round 1
*I have been wrong in the past mind
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| Quote ="El Diablo"'"
Is this predicting the next light weight former TV star who will get his collar felt by the 'Savile' investigators? I only ask that because he proper looks like 'one' in that picture.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Is this predicting the next light weight former TV star who will get his collar felt by the 'Savile' investigators? I only ask that because he proper looks like 'one' in that picture.'"
Well, that'll be good enough for The Mail.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Well, that'll be good enough for The Mail.'"
Come on look at the facts. He's old and creepy looking.....with a beard and he's obviously loitering. Enough to drag in for questioning at the very least.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Come on look at the facts. He's old and creepy looking.....with a beard and he's obviously loitering. Enough to drag in for questioning at the very least.'"
Facts? Questioning? What kind of society do you think we're running here.
A bit of unsubstantiated inuendo and a TV documentary get around all that sort of thing. Easier, faster, cheaper.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Wane for me
I think he was found lacking when it came to the big games last year, I also don't think wigan look as strong on paper as they did last year and the expectation that comes with a club like wigan I think he will be under pressure from round 1
*I have been wrong in the past mind'"
I'm not sure, I don't see Wigan getting rid mid-season. If Wigan don't win anything and relatively poor compared to the last few seasons then I think he could be sacked at the end of the season rather than midway through, especially as Wigans recruitment has been poor. Although I don't know how much responsibility Wane has for that.
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| Quote ="Him"I'm not sure, I don't see Wigan getting rid mid-season. If Wigan don't win anything and relatively poor compared to the last few seasons then I think he could be sacked at the end of the season rather than midway through, especially as Wigans recruitment has been poor. Although I don't know how much responsibility Wane has for that.'"
How many coaches has Lenagan sacked?
Wane is in the second year of a two year contract.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How many coaches has Lenagan sacked?
Wane is in the second year of a two year contract.'"
Which is why I said I couldn't see Wigan getting rid of Wane mid-season.
In this context not offering Wane a renewal is effectively the same as sacking him.
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| Quote ="Him"Which is why I said I couldn't see Wigan getting rid of Wane mid-season.
In this context not offering Wane a renewal is effectively the same as sacking him.'"
But cheaper.
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| Quote ="Him"Which is why I said I couldn't see Wigan getting rid of Wane mid-season.
In this context not offering Wane a renewal is effectively the same as sacking him.'"
No it isn't.
Brian Noble wasn't sacked was he?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No it isn't. '"
Yes it is. If Wane is not Head Coach of Wigan in 2014 it will not be by the choice of Shaun Wane.
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Brian Noble wasn't sacked was he?'"
I'm not sure whether you're serious or just pretending to be stupid. You must have seen what I wrote, it wasn't that long or that difficult to understand for most people.
There are 3 general situations where a coach leaves a club. It's either because the coach has a better offer (like Maguire, Parrish), where both parties feel its the end of a natural cycle (like Smith at Leeds, Kear at Wakey) or where the club no longer wants the coach. Re the 3rd situation, whether the coach has a contract for the next season or not makes no difference, they are still unwanted by the club.
It is my prediction that Wigan would not sack Wane mid-season but would get rid of him at the end of the season if they don't do very well. I'm not sure why thats so provocative or difficult for you to get your head around.
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| Of course it's different. Was Ali Lauititi sacked by Leeds?
No he wasn't, just as Brian Noble wasn't sacked by Wigan.
They saw out their contracts.
At the moment Wane doesn't have a contract for 2014, no drama.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Of course it's different. Was Ali Lauititi sacked by Leeds?
No he wasn't, just as Brian Noble wasn't sacked by Wigan.
They saw out their contracts.
At the moment Wane doesn't have a contract for 2014, no drama.'"
No-one is saying it's a drama. Player contracts are very different as they have a bearing on the salary cap, so a club can still want a player but not at the exepense of cap space.
Once again, you must have actually read what I wrote, if you struggle with such small sentences then I suggest you stay off internet message boards.
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| Quote ="Him"No-one is saying it's a drama. Player contracts are very different as they have a bearing on the salary cap, so a club can still want a player but not at the exepense of cap space.
Once again, you must have actually read what I wrote, if you struggle with such small sentences then I suggest you stay off internet message boards.'"
I know exactly what you said.
Quote ="Him"Which is why I said I couldn't see Wigan getting rid of Wane mid-season.
In this context not offering Wane a renewal is effectively =#FF0000the same as sacking him.'"
Now if your english isn't good enough to explain what you meant, then that isn't my problem.
And I'll ask again, was Brian Noble sacked by Wigan?
I think G1 would probably explain it to you.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I know exactly what you said.
Now if your english isn't good enough to explain what you meant, then that isn't my problem.
And I'll ask again, was Brian Noble sacked by Wigan?
I think G1 would probably explain it to you.'"
He never said it was [iexactly[/i the same, he said it was [ieffectively[/i the same, which it is.
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| Sanderpenis or Anderson. Brown may leave by 'mutual consent' before them if things go pear shaped at Saints.
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Him wrote:Which is why I said I couldn't see Wigan getting rid of Wane mid-season.
In this context not offering Wane a renewal is effectively the same as sacking him.
No it isn't.
Brian Noble wasn't sacked was he?'"
He removed Tony Rea from the coaching post at Quins and replaced him with McDermott. Moved TR into some non job so you could argue it was a semi sacking!!!
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| Vivers at Salford first to go for me
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Of course it's different. Was Ali Lauititi sacked by Leeds?'"
Not wanting to interrupt your little debate but coaches contracts are vary rarely influenced by age and fitness.
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| Ian Millward for me. I'm surprised he didn't get the boot last year.
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"Ian Millward for me. I'm surprised he didn't get the boot last year.'"
Maybe they didn't have the best season, but it would have been incredibly harsh to sack him after what he went through last season.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Now if your english isn't good enough to explain what you meant....'"
English should have a capital letter.
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| Wigans pre-season has asked further questions of Wane. Lost alot of talent from last years squad. Lets see if Wane can rant his way out of it.
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| It's interesting that Snadercock's position will be considered after Easter.
No pressure there then.
FWIW my money's on Vievers.
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