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| Quote ="leeds owl"Yes, yes and thrice yes, couldn't agree more. The new stadiums are a novelty at first but soon become boring when you're visiting the same identikit stadiums every week. This thread is like a dagger through my heart, I couldn't stand the thought of moving from Headingley which has history,memories and an atmoshere all of its own. Behind Wembley i would say Headingley is the most famous ground for overseas players who all relish the chance to play at the possibly the most famous Rugby League club ground in the world.'"
If we built a new ground, using the same plans as Dortmunds stadium would be pretty fantastic.
Also the plans that were drawn up for Liverpool with the massive Kop end looked great
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Yes, yes and thrice yes, couldn't agree more. The new stadiums are a novelty at first but soon become boring when you're visiting the same identikit stadiums every week. This thread is like a dagger through my heart, I couldn't stand the thought of moving from Headingley which has history,memories and an atmoshere all of its own. Behind Wembley i would say Headingley is the most famous ground for overseas players who all relish the chance to play at the possibly the most famous Rugby League club ground in the world.'"
Agree entirely. I'm not one of the old codgers, I haven't witnessed the majority of the history of our traditional ground, but I appreciate it and have enough memories myself. I wouldn't think of moving away from Headingley, how can the Rhinos leave that behind. I'd be happy to see the stadium gradually be modernised but without taking away the traditional heritage away from it.
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| Isn't the site next to Elland Road available? (Am I right in thinking it was supposed to be a super-casino?)
There's also a huge plot of land next to the new (ish!) Porsche garage which is right on the motorway link. Although the traffic is bad enough there on a Friday night so not sure how the road network was cope.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Isn't the site next to Elland Road available? (Am I right in thinking it was supposed to be a super-casino?)
There's also a huge plot of land next to the new (ish!) Porsche garage which is right on the motorway link. Although the traffic is bad enough there on a Friday night so not sure how the road network was cope.'"
Fine. Hunslet can move there.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"There's also a huge plot of land next to the new (ish!) Porsche garage which is right on the motorway link. Although the traffic is bad enough there on a Friday night so not sure how the road network was cope.'"
those traffic lights are the bane of my life. If you come from Gildersome towards town, i swear the lights stay gree for 10 seconds and then back to red
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"
People may like these shiny new stadia, but personally I think most new grounds are souless, and have a limited atmosphere.'"
Agreed although you'll struggle to find a Wigan fan who will agree with you - thats not to say they are right, just that none of them can remember Central Park and what the atmosphere used to be like there (in a good way).
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Isn't the site next to Elland Road available? (Am I right in thinking it was supposed to be a super-casino?)
There's also a huge plot of land next to the new (ish!) Porsche garage which is right on the motorway link. Although the traffic is bad enough there on a Friday night so not sure how the road network was cope.'"
The site next to Elland Road Stadium is becoming a New Police Station I'm told.
My Old Man works at Mercedes Benz on Elland Way and they were told this.
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| Twas in the paper that the old bill were going to have a new station on there.
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| Be handy for them when Millwall, Cardiff etc come to visit.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Twas in the paper that the old bill were going to have a new station on there.'"
The main reason for Bates building a hotel is that all that area is up for proposed development
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Yes, yes and thrice yes, couldn't agree more. The new stadiums are a novelty at first but soon become boring when you're visiting the same identikit stadiums every week. This thread is like a dagger through my heart, I couldn't stand the thought of moving from Headingley which has history,memories and an atmoshere all of its own. Behind Wembley i would say Headingley is the most famous ground for overseas players who all relish the chance to play at the possibly the most famous Rugby League club ground in the world.'"
Most Major league baseball clubs have had new grounds built,but there are two who have kept their old traditional ones.Fenway park of the Boston Redsox is the most favoured ballpark among fans they have kept to the old fasioned appearance ,but modernised the inside, same thing with Wrigley field in Chigago
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| They have not done much inside to Wrigley at all from a fan's perspective. The clubhouse has been improved and expanded over the years however the bleachers still remain and there is a shortage of basic facilities.
There has been much more work done at Fenway. Part of the reason the Cubs hired Theo Epstein was due to his experience of being at the Red Sox during those renovations and the desire to do something similar in Wrigleyville.
Wrigley Field is outdated and a little bit of a dump, similar to Odsal in that regard. This coming from a Bulls supporter.
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| Quote ="Bob Dylan's Hat"They have not done much inside to Wrigley at all from a fan's perspective. The clubhouse has been improved and expanded over the years however the bleachers still remain and there is a shortage of basic facilities.
There has been much more work done at Fenway. Part of the reason the Cubs hired Theo Epstein was due to his experience of being at the Red Sox during those renovations and the desire to do something similar in Wrigleyville.
Wrigley Field is outdated and a little bit of a dump, kind of like Odsal. And yes I am a Bulls supporter.'"
But Fenway is a very popular park with fans with a feel for nostalgia!am I right?Cititezens bank ball park in Philly is quite new and the club has never looked back since they moved their from sharing veterans stadium with the Eagles
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| Quote ="lionarmour87" veterans stadium '"
Now that was a crap stadium! The astroturf (and most of the rest of the ground) was literally falling apart at the seams
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| Both Fenway and Wrigley are extremely popular. There are always coachloads of people coming in from all over the Midwest to sample baseball at Wrigley because it's like watching baseball in surrounds from a bygone era. Many Cubs fan love the place too for it's nostalgic qualities.
Everybody realises the need to modernise and there are those who would prefer a shiny, new stadium out in the suburbs although they are in the minority.
Fenway Park seems to have struck the the balance between making improvements that benefit the average fan's experience and increasing revenue whilst maintaining the essence and structure of the old ballpark. Wrigley is behind in making those steps, it's a question of funding.
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| The Vet was a dump, not only was the turf the worst in sports but there was a major problem with rats, not to mention the jail!
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| Quote ="LFCPatriotRhino"Now that was a crap stadium! The astroturf (and most of the rest of the ground) was literally falling apart at the seams
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Yes they didnt want to leave ,but now the Birds are in the great Lincoln field they love it all they need is a coach and a team.The citizens bank park is new but the atmosphere is incredible ,but they are the Warrington of mlb
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| What works for one may not work for another though. I would loathe Leeds to move away from Headingley, but the time may come when it makes more sense to move away than accept mediocre the concessions.
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| Quote ="Jamie B"What works for one may not work for another though. I would loathe Leeds to move away from Headingley, but the time may come when it makes more sense to move away than accept mediocre the concessions.'"
How long is it going to take to bring Headingley up to scratch?I cant see the ginnel end ever going to get done either.Its ok saying buy the houses etc even if they did after the struggle to get planning permission they will never get it for a stand so close to that Street.so if we stay at Headingley that end will always be open imo
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| Supporters in general are slow to accept change but soon get used to it. Yankee Stadium was demolished and a better facility built over the road. That's the way of the world.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"If money was no option, I certainly wouldn't limit it to 25k seats.
I don;t see why we think a new stadium is needed or even feasible. We have a good stadium in a good location. We can upgrade it as necessary. We are hardly likely to walk away from headingley afetr investing a large wedge into the Carnegie stand in the last 5 years.
People may like these shiny new stadia, but personally I think most new grounds are souless, and have a limited atmosphere.'"
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"How long is it going to take to bring Headingley up to scratch?I cant see the ginnel end ever going to get done either.Its ok saying buy the houses etc even if they did after the struggle to get planning permission they will never get it for a stand so close to that Street.so if we stay at Headingley that end will always be open imo'"
Sometimes it's better and more cost efficient to flatten everything and start again or move to a different location completely. That seems to be the case with Odsal too although the chances of anything positive being done there seem minuscule.
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| Quote ="Bob Dylan's Hat"Sometimes it's better and more cost efficient to flatten everything and start again or move to a different location completely. That seems to be the case with Odsal too although the chances of anything positive being done there seem minuscule.'"
Problem with Odsal is they dont own the place to start with ,and the council cant even get investers to develop the city centre
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Problem with Odsal is they dont own the place to start with ,and the council cant even get investers to develop the city centre'"
There are too many problems regarding Odsal to write about. The same applies to the City itself and the Council.
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