Nope but whoever, besides our coach, said he was? On the other hand there have been plenty of cries for McGuire to play 7 ahead of Burrow. That happened. Oops.

The way I see it was that McD didn't think the McGuire could manage a full 80 minutes so sacrificed a bench spot with Burrow as a 'back up plan' because I really can't believe that his rotational hooker option would have involved the wee man.

I thought in 2007 Kirke was pretty good especially in the play offs & GF. Then I think his form and confidence dropped, and quite a lot were calling to get rid. But this season at prop I think he's gone well and if he could raise that extra 5 - 10% he would be very good.

BTW I still watch the DVD of 07 GF and always rewind and watch again when he smashed Mike Bennett.

....What a load of nonsense.....Compare your own Leeds squad with Wire's and you could easily match them up, salary for salary....similar with Wigan's.

Quite simply, there is jealousy at work over the fact that we are getting value for money from our squad that you lot at Headingley are struggling to acheive.

I didn't I thought Burrow all along would play at 9 with no McShane.Surely it would have made more sense to play McGuire at 6 Burrow at 7 Sinfield 13.

It would but when did common sense come into it?

Agree you did get the best deal and dodged a bullet in hauraki.

I am also getting sick of the supporters defending BMD by saying that he has inherited an aging side! Burgess, Watkins, Kirke, Clarkson, Jones-Bishop, McShane, Hardaker etc are plenty young enough to bolster an older side.

He has inherited a side which probably did have some players retained too long. 2 poor signings in cross and hauraki ( not sure how much involvement he had).

But he had more than enough young quality players to make a go of it

Thats the problem with ageing players,

As time goes on who are going to be replaced in the big guys shoes such as peacock,graham, Morley,fielden.

from different clubs and this will dent internationally aswel not just club level.

Its a massive thing to get young and upcoming players through the ranks,this means giving them more time on the pitch and taking risks as a team!

aparantly Moz wanted to come back to Leeds after the Roosters but someone (GH?) thought he wasn't worth a 4 year deal???? The mind boggles.

Thing is I was well p*ssed off at the time when Hauraki chose Leeds over the Giants, he was very good at Crusaders so not sure what's gone wrong but he seems to have gone backwards?
There is a good player in there somewhere

He just doesn't seem to have settled and his defence has been woefull overall maybe if he produces more try saving tackles like he produced on Morley his confidence will grow and we'll get a decent player out of him.

Maybe its the big jump he made from crusaders to Leeds that did him.

not being able to cope with the pressures,That can happen to big named players aswel sometimes.

Think he is just average squad player. Stood out in a crusaders team but at a bigger club found out a bit

Yeah i can only agree with you ferdy,just like when ian sibbit went to australia and found it difficult and came running back home.

100% definite definite time for him to go

hes a rubbish no1 coach. may be able to cut as no1 in the lower leagues but not super league, only a no2 in this league

he did nothing at quins, just kept them floating.

obviously learnt nothing whilst working with tony smith otherwise would have them playing better than they are.

said ages ago he should have gone and prsonally u dont want him coaching our team

he has always hated leeds.hated us when at bradford and hunslet. hes only here for the money

BRIAN MCDERMOTT

YOUR FIRED!

its now about time to bring in a decent coach even if its only a stop gap coach till the end of the season

as nuch as it pains me to say it, imo bring in noble!

hetherington, there is dead wood in the side and it needs to go. get your hand in your pocket and bring in some class players that us rhinos fans should be able to buy with the support we give. we dont want no has been aussies thats here for the last few years and the money

the simple fact is this, we dont want to be kept afloat with mcdermott and the dead wood thats here, we want to be top or near the top, at least with a proper chance to compete. with what we have got we are going nowhere. keep afloat and i fear some of the supporters will disappear having to watch what we are doing at the moment

i see what you mean!!

To be fair the vast majority of fans thought Morley wasn't worth a four year deal at the time.

As I remember it, in summer 2006, Morley was being chased by Wigan, Leeds, Warrington and Salford (I think there may have been more) and the clinching factor for Warrington was that we offered him a 4 year deal and nobody else was willing to offer that.

Bear in mind he was set to turn 30 early in the first season of those four years, I remember people saying that he was battered and injury prone after his spell in Australia and was past his best, and that by taking him on a four year deal Warrington were risking having 1/2 good years and then paying a high salary for a player who was past his best in the second half of his contract. As it has happened he has barely had any injury problems apart from in his first season and nobody was surprised when he finished his 4 year deal and signed a new one.

He has also been even better than I expected for Warrington, last 2 years he has been a strong contender for MoS.

I've never been confident of McDermott. Some of his team selections are dodgy and I agree with the comments previously, he is a Quins class coach. He isn't good enough to win trophies, which is what we expect at Leeds.

Maybe thats why you have Mc Dermott in charge.Just to give the rest of us mere mortals a chance.

Watching him being interviewed after the Warrington game on Sky, you can see why he's failing as a coach. He sounds and looks clueless, dour and incredibly stubborn. I cannot imagine his style goes well in a dressing room, either as a tactical, technical coach or as a motivator.

Fielden?














That's the funniest thing I've heard this year!

Warrington were pretty good against Leeds. Leeds were dreadful - even given the injuries we had and slightly bizarre team selections. Absolutely without structure at both ends of the field and playing with virtually no fire (legal I mean).

We looked like a badly coached team. There's no other way to describe it. I agree that individual players make mistakes, give away penatlies etc, but IMO that's all part and parcel of a side looking fairly clueless about what its trying to do and how to do it and being frustrated at the way things are going.

A good coach can make a lot of difference to a side. Sadly I donlt think that's what McDermott is.

What has supprised me this year as well I assumed with macs background we at least would be super fit, which doesn't seem the case, we looked to be playing a few speeds down from Warrington all the game.

The biggest blunder for me was the squad selection and missing players who were in form and NOT injured. Playing 2 impact back rowwers from the start and the bizzare interchange times and decisions