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| Yes you are.
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| Haha i was in a rush, was about 10mins to KO and i was off in the FAE, otherwise I would've done!
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| Quote ="Jamie B"Yes you are.'"
No I ain't
You want that ticket or what ? Think next week is last chance to use it (can it be used for cup matches ? )
BTW . I was drving again this week . We ain't ever lost a game that I have driven to .
Back on topic .
I spotted Ryan shopping in the garden plants/sheds bit of B&Q the other week . Must be staying put if he planning getting his garden sorted .
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Hall is the best winger in SL by some distance. His scoring record is exemplary. Your irony detectors need a service...'" What is ironic about..."He needs to concentrate on staying in the field of play when making a break if he wants to be considered for a contract in Oz"?
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| Hall would probably be OK in the NRL - certainly better than Tansey - but he wouldn't be a star winger by any means. He would become a better player though.
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| Quote ="BaldRick"
Back on topic .
I spotted Ryan shopping in the garden plants/sheds bit of B&Q the other week . Must be staying put if he planning getting his garden sorted .'"
Or getting his house ready to sell?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Hall would probably be OK in the NRL - certainly better than Tansey - but he wouldn't be a star winger by any means. He would become a better player though.'"
I don't know how you can say that. There has been many a poor winger playing in the NRL and classed a star, even representing Australia.
Personally though if he went to Aus, I think they would push him into the pack.
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| spoke to him saturday, i mentioned it he just laughed!!! he's only just moved into his house, although he'd get plenty for renting it out.
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| Quote ="G1"What is ironic about..."He needs to concentrate on staying in the field of play when making a break if he wants to be considered for a contract in Oz"?'"
Maybe I meant sarcasm not irony. It was sarcastic that the best winger in SL made one error of judgement after a spectacular break. You know very well how I rate Hall, from our numerous conversations about him.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Maybe I meant sarcasm not irony.'"
Or maybe you were covering your tracks?
Anyway, your sarcasm detector is clearly a little off if you failed to picked up my gentle tease about the "radio listeners" thread from earlier in the season.
Quote You know very well how I rate Hall, from our numerous conversations about him.'" You shouldn't blur the lines between real life and stuff posted on here.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino" from our numerous conversations about him.'"
During one of said conversations I said Hall would've made over 200 metres this week and the stats have proven me wise, yet again.
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Bit of Ryan Hall statage 2011 for you:
Games - 14
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Tries - 11
Ass. - 1
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Metres - 1727
per game - 123.4
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Carries - 211
per Game - 15
metres/c - 8.2
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Tackle Busts - 42
per game - 3
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Breaks - 11
per game - 0.79
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Tackles - 49
Missed - 16
Tackle % - 75.4
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Errors - 18
Penalties - 2
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Compared with Tom Briscoe, who is seen by most as the best winger in the country ( superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011) and he is better with ball in hand but Briscoe looks the better defensivly. Not much in them though.
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Bit of Ryan Hall statage 2011 for you:
Games - 14
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Tries - 11
Ass. - 1
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Metres - 1727
per game - 123.4
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Carries - 211
per Game - 15
metres/c - 8.2
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Tackle Busts - 42
per game - 3
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Breaks - 11
per game - 0.79
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Tackles - 49
Missed - 16
Tackle % - 75.4
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Errors - 18
Penalties - 2
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Compared with Tom Briscoe, who is seen by most as the best winger in the country ( superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011) and he is better with ball in hand but Briscoe looks the better defensivly. Not much in them though.
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Quote ="Harrigan"Compared with Tom Briscoe, who is seen by most as the best winger in the country ( superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011) and he is better with ball in hand but Briscoe looks the better defensivly. Not much in them though.'"
Just for clarification, from those stats in which way is he better with ball in hand? I'm not disputing whether he is, but it does not show in those stats.
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Quote ="Harrigan"Compared with Tom Briscoe, who is seen by most as the best winger in the country ( superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011) and he is better with ball in hand but Briscoe looks the better defensivly. Not much in them though.'"
Just for clarification, from those stats in which way is he better with ball in hand? I'm not disputing whether he is, but it does not show in those stats.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just for clarification, from those stats in which way is he better with ball in hand? I'm not disputing whether he is, but it does not show in those stats.'"
Tries scored?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Tries scored?'"
Fair enougth then if you think Monaghan is better than Hall, or Youngquest is better than Roberts.
Ade Gardner topped the try charts once you know?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Fair enougth then if you think Monaghan is better than Hall, or Youngquest is better than Roberts.
Ade Gardner topped the try charts once you know?'"
As usual you get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
The previous post was comparing Hall with Briscoe & the question mark indicated that it was a moot point.
So your question/comment is as usual pointless.
In many regards Monaghan [u may[/ube better than Hall or Youngquest [umay be better than Roberts[/u that was not what my post was about.
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| for me the best BRITISH wingers are Briscoe and Hall although i do rate Peter Fox. But the best winger in super league is still Pat Richards. Its hard to compare stats as Pat has only just returned from injury but is already showing very good form, not to mention his record breaking season last year. Its hard to look past him although everyone is entitled to their opinion !!!
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| Quote ="Old Feller"As usual you get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
The previous post was comparing Hall with Briscoe & the question mark indicated that it was a moot point.
So your question/comment is as usual pointless.
In many regards Monaghan [umay[/ube better than Hall or Youngquest [umay be better than Roberts[/u that was not what my post was about.'"
Put down your handbag, and file those nails.
I got no wrong end of stick. I saw quite clearly you asked a question, and therfore I answered it fairly. Dont't ask a question if you don't want a response.
The response by the way was general, not specific to you, as I thought your question was general also and not aimed at me.
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| Quote ="Old Feller" that was not what my post was about.'"
In fairness it's difficult to read between the lines based on two words.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just for clarification, from those stats in which way is he better with ball in hand? I'm not disputing whether he is, but it does not show in those stats.'"
Yeah, just had a proper look. Didnt see that Briscoe touches the ball a lot less that Ryan. M/C are roughly the same. Ryan very rarely has a sub 100m game though and does a lot of work coming out of his own half. Briscoes dh scoots may be a reason why his m/c are up there with ryan.
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| The fact that people rate Richards as better than any British winger sums it up. He was never a 'star' in the NRL which he left years ago. I'm also struggling to come up with a list of Australian international wingers that weren't better than Hall - David Williams recently (possibly), but after that you may have to go back a while. Hall's a good solid winger but he wouldn't be a star in the NRL.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The fact that people rate Richards as better than any British winger sums it up. He was never a 'star' in the NRL which he left years ago. I'm also struggling to come up with a list of Australian international wingers that weren't better than Hall - David Williams recently (possibly), but after that you may have to go back a while. Hall's a good solid winger but he wouldn't be a star in the NRL.'"
Just off the top of my head I would put Hall as a better winger than, Williams, O'Davis, Tahu, Nagas, Rooney, and Sing. And they are only ones that have played for Australia, not mentioning all the ones who have played highly in the NRL.
Richards is only rated highly because of his scoring, and the fact he is a world class goal kicker. Much the same as when Daryl Halligan was playing, anyone would have wanted him in their side, but he was a pretty average player. Put Richards in a Crusaders, or Salford side, and not many would be rating him, but because of the number of chances at try's and kicks he gets at Wigan it is a different story.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The fact that people rate Richards as better than any British winger sums it up. He was never a 'star' in the NRL which he left years ago. I'm also struggling to come up with a list of Australian international wingers that weren't better than Hall - David Williams recently (possibly), but after that you may have to go back a while. Hall's a good solid winger but he wouldn't be a star in the NRL.'"
Agree 100%. I think Hall would have to be a truly outstanding winger for an Aussie club to consider him. He's not - just good. Of course I hope he stays with us, though.
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| Hall is an outstanding winger IMO. The best in the game, IMO.
I reached this opinion by watching wingers play rugby, without reading any statistics.
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| Quote ="G1"Hall is an outstanding winger IMO. The best in the game, IMO.
I reached this opinion by watching wingers play rugby, without reading any statistics.'"
It must take some time attending all those games, and money.
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