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| Bidsy was unquestionably my mom. Played virtually all the game (at hooker, loose forward and stand off), copped a real shiner to the extent he was unable to see from that eye, produced an awesome try saving tackle then came up with the match winning try. Even the coach singled him out for deserved praise.
Still not enough for G1 though
McShane is undoubtedly the future but we'll miss Buderus if/when he goes - far more than we've missed Disko
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| Quote ="AJC"McShane is undoubtedly the future but we'll miss Buderus if/when he goes - far more than we've missed Disko'"
Why do people keep going on about Diskin? we haven't missed Diskin at all and therfore he doesn't need mentioning when talking about Buderus. All this year has proved is how Diskin was holding back the obvious talents of McShane last year. We could have been further on now probably had we not done that.
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| Quote ="AJC"Bidsy was unquestionably my mom. Played virtually all the game (at hooker, loose forward and stand off), copped a real shiner to the extent he was unable to see from that eye, produced an awesome try saving tackle then came up with the match winning try. Even the coach singled him out for deserved praise.
Still not enough for G1 though
McShane is undoubtedly the future but we'll miss Buderus if/when he goes - far more than we've missed Disko'"
It's Bedsy, not Bidsy. But spot on all the same.
I think McShane is awesome. I think he's playing incredibly well at the moment, and has improved so much in the past few years (coincidently since Buderus has arrived, but there's no convincing G1 of that either). He is unquestionably the future, and unquestionably playing very well. But however well McShane is playing, should not detract from the fact that Danny Buderus IS (not 'was', IS) a phenomenal player.
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| I think that Buderus scored a great hookers try when McShane was unable to get to Dummy Half, something that Diskin was frequently accused of during his time at Leeds...
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Why do people keep going on about Diskin? we haven't missed Diskin at all '" I miss Diskin.
remarkable, I don't hate Buderus at all. I like him, I think he's an excellent player.
My issue has always been that he has fallen way below expectations at Leeds, has never been the player he should have been, has received adulation from our fans not earned in the blue and amber (especially when someone did earn that adulation in the blue and amber and still does not receive it), and has overall been a disappointment given how he has failed to influence the side to an extent that a player with his reputation and experience should.
Not to mention that he was an unnecessary signing when the salary cap and quota space could easily have been used in positions of greater need. We were doing well with Diskin, we had McShane on the books (and Hood). He was a flashy headline grabbing signing (remember he was meant to be Ellis's replacement) that was not needed and hasn't borne fruit.
Of course, people interpret that as me "hating" Buderus. I can't be blamed for people's inability to comprehend.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"It's Bedsy, not Bidsy.'"
Yes, i noticed that once i'd sent it!!! Cheers all the same
Gotcha: Don't think mentioning Disko's name once (well thats twice now) warrants 'going on' about him! Just trying to get an understanding of G1's disliking of Buderus. Usually G1 has logical and rational views on overseas players - he has correctly (so far) predicted that Hauraki & Cross would be a waste of salary cap - but I fail to see where he's coming from with Buderus, who in my opinion is the best all round 9 we've had in years
Over to G1.........
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| Ha ha, and there we have it......an answer before I'd even posted the question!
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"It's Bedsy, not Bidsy. But spot on all the same..'"
I thought it was pronounced 'Macca'
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| Quote ="G1"I miss Diskin.
remarkable, I don't hate Buderus at all. I like him, I think he's an excellent player.
My issue has always been that he has fallen way below expectations at Leeds, has never been the player he should have been, has received adulation from our fans not earned in the blue and amber (especially when someone did earn that adulation in the blue and amber and still does not receive it), and has overall been a disappointment given how he has failed to influence the side to an extent that a player with his reputation and experience should.
Not to mention that he was an unnecessary signing when the salary cap and quota space could easily have been used in positions of greater need. We were doing well with Diskin, we had McShane on the books (and Hood). He was a flashy headline grabbing signing (remember he was meant to be Ellis's replacement) that was not needed and hasn't borne fruit.
Of course, people interpret that as me "hating" Buderus. I can't be blamed for people's inability to comprehend.'"
I dont miss Diskin! A great player for our club no question, but peaked in the mid 2000's and it was the correct decision to let him go. He hasn't exactly been setting the world alight at Bradford either to be fair
Buderus' 1st season was ruined through injury
His 2nd season I would agree could have been better, but then injuries and internal politics at the club seemed to have the biggest influence of all in a disappointing close to the season
This season: Outstanding! Go on.....admit it!!!
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| What none of us will ever know is how McShane would have developed (& Hood?) without Buderus' presence here, with only Diskin as their onfield & training ground mentor.
I have my views.
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| Quote ="AJC"
McShane is undoubtedly the future but we'll miss Buderus if/when he goes - far more than we've missed Disko'"
At least we'll be able to look back fondly at some of his great moments.
That'll be last year's cup semi final when he was almost man of the match then.
It's not as if we can look back on any great moments featuring Disko is it..............
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| Quote ="AJC"This season: Outstanding! Go on.....admit it!!!'"
Nevaaar!!!!!!
In all seriousness, I would say he's been good to very good this season. Not outstanding.
Of course, that will instantly be dismissed because it's come from me but he's rarely the dominant player in our team. McShane has shown that a hooker can take on that role.
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| Quote ="G1"At least we'll be able to look back fondly at some of his great moments.
That'll be last year's cup semi final when he was almost man of the match then.
It's not as if we can look back on any great moments featuring Disko is it..............'"
And here we go again!
Don't worry, I'll never forget how Disko single handedly won us 4 grand finals (and there was me thinking it was a team game)
But since memories count for squat, i'm reasonably optimistic that Buderus greatest moments are yet to come - whilst our illustrious ex hooker contemplates life outside the playoffs
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| McShane has shown that he is a failed halfback who is making great strides as an attacking hooker, thus catching the eye. It would be folly to compare his style of play with that of Buderus as they are completely different. Buderus is a more traditional hooker, who provides excellent service to his halfback and is a much better defender than any other hooker in the comp, including Roby, IMO.
They complement each other well, with each one compensating for the other's deficiencies.
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| Quote ="AJC"
But since memories count for squat,'" Do they? Not to me they don't. They count for an awful lot. They're like the corners of my mind. Misty water coloured.
I hope your optimism in Buderus abilities to emulate Diskin are well founded. Sadly, even if we manage to win one this year it looks like he may bail on us leaving him with 25% of Diskin's achievements.
Wowweeee
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"They complement each other well, with each one compensating for the other's deficiencies.'"
This poster is suggesting Buderus has deficiencies. Burn the heretic. Burn him!!!!
Get the pitchforks.
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| Quote ="G1"Nevaaar!!!!!!
In all seriousness, I would say he's been good to very good this season. Not outstanding.
Of course, that will instantly be dismissed because it's come from me but he's rarely the dominant player in our team. McShane has shown that a hooker can take on that role.'"
Well thats one thing we agree on, McShane will be a fantastic 9 - but still unproven on a week in week out basis. For that reason I wouldn't mind Buderus hanging around another year. In fact I reckon we've been at our best this season (from an attacking point of view) when they've both been on the pitch, just a shame it takes Mags to be injured before it happens!
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| or 33% of Ian Kirke's Leeds GF medal tally to put it another way.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"or 33% of Ian Kirke's Leeds GF medal tally to put it another way.'"
Is Kirke missing 1% of his medals?
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| Quote ="G1"Do they? Not to me they don't. They count for an awful lot. [uThey're like the corners of my mind. Misty water coloured.[/uI hope your optimism in Buderus abilities to emulate Diskin are well founded. Sadly, even if we manage to win one this year it looks like he may bail on us leaving him with 25% of Diskin's achievements.
Wowweeee'"
To be honest you're much more Hannah Gordon on Morecambe & Wise than Barbra Streisand...
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| Maybe the missing 1% was stolen by the same bloke that nicked TMFMISL's? I know who's I'd rather pinch...
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"or 33% of Ian Kirke's Leeds GF medal tally to put it another way.'"
Funnily enough I was just thinking that! By that logic Ian Kirke is therefore better than Gareth Ellis, Adrian Morley to name but 2....
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Maybe the missing 1% was stolen by the same bloke that nicked TMFMISL's? I know who's I'd rather pinch...'"
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| Quote ="AJC"Funnily enough I was just thinking that! By that logic Ian Kirke is therefore better than Gareth Ellis, Adrian Morley to name but 2....'"
Whose logic are you applying to come top that conclusion?
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Bailey's of course, there are more of them and therefore the return would be greater, but that's exactly what you meant wasn't it.
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