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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"So what are you arguing for?
A change of emphasis so that the benefit of the doubt rule applies to the defending side instead?
Or the scrapping of the benefit of the doubt rule completely?'"
I thought I'd just answered that by saying the rule should be chucked in the bin.
In this specific example, I don't think FC should have been awarded a try automatically just because a flawed rule says they should. That ball was nowhere near the ground.
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| Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"I thought I'd just answered that by saying the rule should be chucked in the bin.'"
In favour of what?
Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"In this specific example, I don't think FC should have been awarded a try automatically just because a flawed rule says they should. That ball was nowhere near the ground.'"
In your opinion and others which share your opinion, but not in the opinion of others who do not share that opinion.
Would you consider it a flawed rule if the benefit of the doubt was always given to the team defending?
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| Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"I thought I'd just answered that by saying the rule should be chucked in the bin.
In this specific example, I don't think FC should have been awarded a try automatically just because a flawed rule says they should. That ball was nowhere near the ground.'"
If the ball was 'clearly' not grounded then the BOFTD rule should have never been used and that was an error in the video referee's part, nothing wrong with the rule itself.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"In favour of what?'"
Again, as I've already said...if the video ref isn't sure whether it's a try or not, then hand the decision back to the on-field ref.
I just don't think that in that situation generally (and especially in the example we saw today) that a try should automatically be awarded.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Would you consider it a flawed rule if the benefit of the doubt was always given to the team defending?'"
Yes, I would.
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| part of the problem regarding video refs decisions is that they only get the video feed not any sound, the whistle might have been blown before long made the final effort and grounded the ball but the video ref wont know that
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| Although initially it was clear Cockayne had held the ball up I thought there was enough reason to suppose Long got some part of the ball down as he legitimately struggled to do so.
He couldn't see whether the ball had been grounded but it was reasonable to suppose that it had. It was therefore a correct call and precisely why Benefit Of The Doubt should be available to the video referee.
What purpose would be served by handing such decisions back to the on-field referee?
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| You said he couldn't see if he got the ball down. This is the point. You said supposed I would say he guessed and that's wrong.
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| Agreed, that's exactly what I said and that's why it is awarded as Benefit Of The Doubt.
There will always be occasions when the ball is obscured under bodies, where the referee, the in goal judge or the video referee will have to make an educated guess.
Just because no-one can see the ball touch the ground doesn't mean that it hasn't.
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| How many times do we watch seemingly endless repeats of the same thing when the vidio ref is "in action"? If he has to look at it more than once there is "doubt" or why the replay
As benefit of the doubt has to go to the attacking team surely any try that needs looking at more than once is a try.
Thus, a stupid rule
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