Ahhh, got you.

Seems strange that his workload has reduced so dramatically, surely can't be being used properly in defence.

He is defending much wider and therefore a lot less involved in terms of tackles / game, however they tend to be against faster players hence the misses / game.

So, it's seems Buderus is very successful at international level but a bit of a loser at club level. If only I were Australian I would gain some solace from that.

Should we laud his international success too much? I have a feeling I could've played 9 in those Aussie squads and their results would've been the same.

Mate, you might have made a fair hooker, but not on the rugby pitch...

Depends if you call winning a GF and the Dally M as a loser at club level?

And whilst the Aussies were a dominant force you still have to be a pretty special player to get selected at 9 for Australia that many times - sadly that accolade doesn't have quite the same status for GB/England - especially when you look who has worn the 9 jersey in recent years

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Not sure wether you class SOO as club level - but if you do then 25 appearances many as captain - including being a captain in a winning series - again not sure that counts as a loser either?

I suppose if you consider SL to be a superior competition to the NRL & SOO?

However you review his career, its achievements compare favourably with anything that emerges from Headingley.

Unlike some of our starlets he has tested himself in the NRL?

Yes we could.

Also, on the Webb at Stand-off debate. I think when I have seen him chime in this season, he has struggled to pass backwards.

Doubt it, overweight hookers the wrong side of 40 wouldnt last 2 minutes in international rugby league.

Just sayin

Same here if we lose on Thursday to your shower of ****.

It would be the ultimate embarrassment for the Bulls.

could do without 2 embarrasments in a week

Seems to me like the main reason Buderus came over here was because he knew he wasn't going to keep his number 9 shirt for the Aussies with Cameron Smith on the scene so came over a legend rather than fizzle out and be dropped from the squad.

His performance so far have failled to prove me wrong.

I think that's slightly unfair. This season he has had more good games than bad. He tore Wigan to pieces. He just doesn't apply himself the same to every match. I can't decide if it's his age or his ego.

He wouldn't have been anywhere near the Aussie team on the last few seasons performance. 3 or 4 decent games this year can't make up for it i'm affraid.

Agree he wouldnt have made the aussie team, but I dont agree that just because he lost 9 shirt to SMITH that he still wouldnt be classed as a legend in the NRL.

He will still be viewed as a great player (legend i'm not sure) for me he'd struggle against Johns and Lockyer to be a legend from this generation. But I think him coming over here and fizzling out leaves a better impression in the australian pshyce once he's retired than if he stayed in the NRL and fizzled out infront of the Aussie public. His public perception will be greater for coming over here and effectively retiring himself from international duty.

Yes i agree that in the eyes of the NRL fans he will be better thought of for coming over here. But for me his time in the NRL NSW AUSSIE team I think he will be up there with the names mentioned.