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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Looked like a chicken wing by TL f@cked his shoulder. Though im loathed to say for certain or condemn TL before having the chance to look at it again.'"
Will wait to see the replay. One thing is for certain - Mick Potter was spot on about Wigan and their "dangerous techniques" (I think that's the phrase he used)...there's no need for them in the game and unless the RFL need to do something.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"More cowardly than the two incidents of yours I mention? No.'"
Are you really that stupid?
One was an attempt to cause a serious injury to a player who was held by two other players whereas your examples are heat of the moment things (and frankly I think your the only person that even saw them as serious).
I bet you think Cassidy on Morley was just a "big hit" don't you?
Are you Phil Clarke?
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Did Silverwood write up the BBC report too?:
Quote Champions Wigan produced one of the comebacks of all time ...
Sam Tomkins' superb solo effort...
Stand-in kicker Tomkins then kept his cool with the last kick of a memorable thriller to land a tough penalty.
And they were also handicapped by having prop Jeff Lima sinbinned for a dangerous tackle.
But Wigan are not Super League champions for nothing - and they stunningly had the final word as Leeds buckled.
Then, just three minutes later, came a great effort from Goulding, who did brilliantly to touch down in the left corner.
A stunning attack involving both Tomkins brothers took Wigan to within two yards of the Leeds line, they won a penalty 10 metres from the touchline.
And, despite being fourth choice kicker behind injured trio Pat Richards, Paul Deacon and Josh Charnley, Tomkins nailed it straight between the posts.
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news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 439007.stm
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Did Silverwood write up the BBC report too?:
Quote Champions Wigan produced one of the comebacks of all time ...
Sam Tomkins' superb solo effort...
Stand-in kicker Tomkins then kept his cool with the last kick of a memorable thriller to land a tough penalty.
And they were also handicapped by having prop Jeff Lima sinbinned for a dangerous tackle.
But Wigan are not Super League champions for nothing - and they stunningly had the final word as Leeds buckled.
Then, just three minutes later, came a great effort from Goulding, who did brilliantly to touch down in the left corner.
A stunning attack involving both Tomkins brothers took Wigan to within two yards of the Leeds line, they won a penalty 10 metres from the touchline.
And, despite being fourth choice kicker behind injured trio Pat Richards, Paul Deacon and Josh Charnley, Tomkins nailed it straight between the posts.
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news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 439007.stm
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Richards? Deacon? Fielden? Gleeson (controversially)? '"
No, that would be like me complaining about Smith, Burgess, Lauitiiti and BJB being missing.
If you want to pretend that any of Richards, Deacon, Fielden or Gleeson are as integral to Wigan as Mcguire and Peacock feel free. But i reserve the right to think you are an idiot.
Quote More cowardly than the two incidents of yours I mention? No.'" Yes.
Quote You don't think it'll be a cracker? Fine, but if you managed to scrape a draw thanks to us not having a goal kicker and think you'll go without losing another game all year, you're crazy.
I'm not saying you won't, but just based on tonight's match it's a ridiculous thing to expect.'"
I dont think we will be able to play like that every match till the end of the season. If we do, we will win.
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| My first reaction was Jesus how did we lose that one! OK I know it was a draw, but it felt like a loss.
My 2nd reaction was that was an outstanding performance, by a team expected by all, (myself included) to be blown away by last years Champions. Instead we saw a Rhinos team that played with skill, commitment, and some fire in their bellys.
As I posted on the Wigan Board, where they are creaming themselves at getting out of jail. They gained a point tonight, we gained so much more!
I think our 2011 season has just started.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Looked like a chicken wing by TL f@cked his shoulder. Though im loathed to say for certain or condemn TL before having the chance to look at it again.'"
I'd get me eyes checked if i was you - it was nothing like a chicken wing tackle - TL hit him with the shoulder and bounced off - to even make the assertion shows a lack of class.
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| Quote ="warriorweed"I'd get me eyes checked if i was you - it was nothing like a chicken wing tackle - TL hit him with the shoulder and bounced off - to even make the assertion shows a lack of class.'"
A lack of class - get over yourself - it's not like Wigan don't have form
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, that would be like me complaining about Smith, Burgess, Lauitiiti and BJB being missing.
If you want to pretend that any of Richards, Deacon, Fielden or Gleeson are as integral to Wigan as Mcguire and Peacock feel free. But i reserve the right to think you are an idiot.'"
I'm sorry, you're right. Last year's Man of Steel, Top Try Scorer and Top Points Scorer for the last 4 years adds nothing at all to our team. He certainly wouldn't have made a difference tonight. How stupid of me.
By the way, since you obviously will need this information, I was being sarcastic just there.
Quote ="Omar Little"Are you really that stupid?
One was an attempt to cause a serious injury to a player who was held by two other players whereas your examples are heat of the moment things '"
Finish the sentence with... "but also attempts to cause serious injury to the players". If you think a punch and an elbow aren't intended to cause injury, it's not me that's the stupid one here. The fact you immediately respond with an insult rather than a sensical defence shows you're already defeated in this argument.
Quote I bet you think Cassidy on Morley was just a "big hit" don't you?'"
No. Do you think Senior didn't kick out last year? Did you think Lee Smith didn't kick Bailey in the face?
Quote Are you Phil Clarke?'"
LOL. You wish I was.
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| Leeds were made to pay for not taking their chances in the first half. Senior and Huraki (who's defense is VERY suspect) both bomed a chance.
We defended really well for 70 minutes or so but yet again failed to maintain our performance for the full 80. We're only going to improve (I'd hope so anyway) as we start to some some of our key players back so they're positives to take from the game. We defended with a lot more aggresion than we have done so far this season for most of the game if we maintain that level of intensity for the whole game then we'll do well this season IMO.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Finish the sentence with... "but also attempts to cause serious injury to the players". If you think a punch and an elbow aren't intended to cause injury, it's not me that's the stupid one here. The fact you immediately respond with an insult rather than a sensical defence shows you're already defeated in this argument. '"
So if you say that the sky is green and I respond "don't be f*cking stupid" you have already won the arguement
You really don't get the difference between giving someone a slap in a tackle and an attempt to dislocate a players knee do you?
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| Quote ="Omar Little"
Are you Phil Clarke?'"
No but he holds similar unsavoury views. Presumably Fishta was praying for more "poetic justice".
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| Quote ="Omar Little"A lack of class - get over yourself - it's not like Wigan don't have form'"
Form for what ? Can anyone tell me how many times TL has been banned for chicken wings -just cos 1 player (lima) has been banned don't mean the whole team is at it.
Lack of class,yeah - the assertion was along the same lines as McClennans hysterical rant in the play off game when he accused Wigan players of deliberately injuring maguire which was completely false. Common theme -yeah i think so.
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| Quote ="warriorweed"Form for what ? Can anyone tell me how many times TL has been banned for chicken wings -just cos 1 player (lima) has been banned don't mean the whole team is at it.
Lack of class,yeah - the assertion was along the same lines as McClennans hysterical rant in the play off game when he accused Wigan players of deliberately injuring maguire which was completely false. Common theme -yeah i think so.'"
:Yawn:
McClennan isn't even at Leeds anymore.
Ask Mick Potter what I mean about Wigan having form (I was referring to the team BTW not any individual player)
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| you cant blame any team for using a tactic that isnt deemed illegal [i(untill recentley[/i) by the powers that be
thats not to say i agree/disagree with it
i do think thats the end of it though regarding lima , as it was dealt with 'on field' by the officials
kylie could have been binned early in the 2nd half for targetting lima off the ball , instead the ref decided to have a quiet word off the ball
a lack of composure cost leeds in the end , and a champion side plays the full 80
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| Quote ="wiganstu"you cant blame any team for using a tactic that isnt deemed illegal [i(untill recentley[/i) by the powers that be'"
Eh? It's always been illegal. The only change is in the interpretation to make it an automatic yellow card as a further incentive against such dirty tactics.
Quote a lack of composure cost leeds in the end , and a champion side plays the full 80'"
You wigan Fans might have forgotten after last year but, don't worry we do know a fair bit about champion sides in Leeds
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| Just got home – a little pished but still have a reasonable recollection of the game.
1) That was the best 65 minutes of football that I seen Leeds play this year.
2) If I ever see Tomkins (S) in a darkened ally I will remove his manhood, place it in a finger roll with onions and sell it outside the Skyrack for £2.75
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Eh? It's always been illegal. The only change is in the interpretation to make it an automatic yellow card as a further incentive against such dirty tactics.
You wigan Fans might have forgotten after last year but, don't worry we do know a fair bit about champion sides in Leeds
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why did sam not get done for the cunnigham incident last year then ??
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Just got home – a little pished but still have a reasonable recollection of the game.
1) That was the best 65 minutes of football that I seen Leeds play this year.
[u2) If I ever see Tomkins (S) in a darkened ally I will remove his manhood, place it in a finger roll with onions and sell it outside the Skyrack for £2.75'" [/u
sign of a great player , gets under your skin
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| Quote ="wiganstu"[/u
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Ryan Bailey.
Perfect example.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"So if you say that the sky is green and I respond "don't be f*cking stupid" you have already won the arguement
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No, because I wouldn't be so stupid as to post that. Unless the sky WAS Green.
Quote You really don't get the difference between giving someone a slap in a tackle and an attempt to dislocate a players knee do you?'"
Yes, I do. You don't get the difference between a punch, an elbow and a slap, the reality being there isn't one, they're all acts of violence that need to be punished, and they all carry the potential for serious injury.
FWIW, I didn't say anything was wrong with the decision to sin bin Lima. But Leeds got off very lightly, as usual.
Quote ="Fat Boy"
2) If I ever see Tomkins (S) in a darkened ally I will remove his manhood, place it in a finger roll with onions and sell it outside the Skyrack for £2.75'"
Ah, jealousy. You can't beat it.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Ryan Bailey.
Perfect example.'"
Your comparison of the thug Bailey with Sam Tompkins, who has skill to burn, as shown by his 'kick- over' try, tells us all more about your comments than anything.
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"Your comparison of the thug Bailey with Sam Tompkins, who has skill to burn, as shown by his 'kick- over' try, tells us all more about your comments than anything.'"
Your lack of knowledge when it comes to spelling players' names, makes it apparent you know little about RL.
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| Thought Bailey was running around being a house tonight. There is niggle and then there is giving away needless penalties for grabbing people by the face. Also did he win a collision? Every time he ran into Coley, or any of the Wigan forwards he went backwards.
The Lima incident, do we give him the benefit of the doubt that he was going in to wrap up the legs and mistimed it? Maybe IMO. IF he did go in with the below knee height chop on purpose he requires a large ban. I suppose that's for the RFL to decide.
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Quote ="wiganstu"why did sam not get done for the cunnigham incident last year then ??'"
Which incident do you have in mind .... this one?
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1304
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Quote ="wiganstu"why did sam not get done for the cunnigham incident last year then ??'"
Which incident do you have in mind .... this one?
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1304
Warning letter issued.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Your lack of knowledge when it comes to spelling players' names, makes it apparent you know little about RL.'"
Yes I am new to RL I only go back to the days of Boston, Ashton and McTigue.
I used the spelling as a 'cut and paste' from your forum.
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