I saw at least two from burrow. As for keith didnt actually see any shouting just his usual scary snarl on several occasions.

Again, let me remind you what you said.



If you had said



But you didn't say that did you. You found Broughton's performance worthy of comment and appear to continue to do so.

Let me clarify the hidden agenda for you. I'll come out in the open.

When I said "Buderus has missed 4 tackles"

What I really meant was

"Buderus has missed 4 tackles"

Appalling heresy I know. I do apologise. The next time I observe Buderus missed tackle count, error count, or penalties conceded (goodness forbid he would ever do these things) I will qualify the statement with glowing, loving reference to the wonderful things he does to ensure nobody could ever misconstrue a comment they Buderus has missed 4 tackles as being negative.

All you need to do is throw enough bait into the pond and the "guilty" fish can't help themselves.

I'm quite sure I don't know what you mean.

If I upset you (or anyone else) by having the temerity to bring up Buderus's 4 missed tackles, sorry, 4 missed tackles according to OPta which is never accurate when recording negative statistics for Buderus, then I apologise.

No need to apologise, you don't mean it anyway.

Almost, no animals involved though.

OK, Ill tell you...

1) How many overlaps did Burrow kill

&

2) How many looping slow passes did Burrow attempt to kill his outside backs with

Both of these are important stats and I reckon both are pushing double figures every game.

What about How many over-laps did Webb feck up?
Or Who was the worst passer for leeds in the last game?
I'll give you a clue none of it involves Robbie!

Yeah, but what has that got to do with my agenda against Rob? Nothing..





And I am right about Rob. Sooner or later everyone will see it.

You've both totally lost me now. What has any of this got to do with Rob's pet owls?!

Look into the eyes ,not around the eyes 3.2.1.....................yer under

For someone who only last week claimed 'not to be concerned with stats' or some such similar sentiment you appear to be placing a lot of emphasis on one of them this week. Stats are all well and good but certain stats (such as missed tackles) don't give anything more than a basic overall indication without referencing them to actual plays within the game. It's why, like you, I don't rely on them too much.

Here's my opening contribution to the crucially significant 'Buderus missed a tackle or four' discussion: 62nd minute, Lauitiiti and Buderus both in turn missed a tackle on Lomax which cost Leeds approximately two meters of territory close to their own line. Despite Lomax being missed he was stopped short of the line to no real discernable detriment to the defensive play thanks to Sinfield and Webb who layed on to slow the resultant play the ball. The defence was re-set and had the numbers to deal with the following St Helens play down their left flank. However Meli scores easily on Watkins outside shoulder as the Leeds man is caught 'ball watching' rather than numbering up on his man defensively.

Purely as an accompanying observation, 123 seconds before the Meli try Leeds were in the lead, in possesion and attacking in the St Helens half before a brain-fart moment by a Leeds player arguably changed the momentum of the match.

Not at all. As I have done the last few weeks with Kirke's carry count (which I have fairly accurately predicted) I was relying upon what I saw. The statistics supported what I saw.

Can I just check, do you think Buderus didn't miss 4 tackles?

I don't have the benefit of the game on SKy+ any more.

As I am stranded at home recovering from a bout of gout I might have watched it again with a pen and paper as you appear to have. Instead. I shall have to retreat to the settee with Bacon, Sarnie, Coffee, packet of ginger biscuits and the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.

You'll never fit all that and her on one of your sofa's mate, but if you did, it'd be fun picking the ginger biscuit crumbs out...

She'd have your guts for garters.

To wile away the time while you're laid up, if you enjoy the Stieg Ln novels, why not try Jo Nesbo?

Aye, they're quite good.

& they're quite long so would keep him occupied & off here for some time.
Just don't mention missed tackles or midget porn.

Finished the superb Millenium trilogy so will give Nesbo a go Old Fella. Thanks for the recommendation.

Indeed they did in terms of quantity.



Sure. Honestly I've no idea bar the one I've highlighted (to date the only missed Buderus tackle anyone has specified) which I assume also accounts for one miss each for Lauitiiti and Watkins if you include the following play.




Shame I had such high hopes for this diversion (I estimated 12 pages as a minimum) what am I going to do now.



Sweet. How did you know I watch games with a pen and paper (A4 sized notepad actually)

But not to record, missed tackles, maybe that's one for the future now the government has U-turned on the forest sell off. More usually it's try assists, knock ons, forward passes, penalties conceded, failed offloads (Buderus had one of those in the 10th minute you'll recall) and monumental, game changing brain-farts.

as far as i can recall nobody has a problem with watkins missed tackles. Its the stupid, blind offloads people don't like him doing

Stick with it, you may find the 1st one "Redbreast" hard going initially, I did, but I persevered & have found them all increasingly enjoyable.
I am just finishing the most recent one on the boss's Kindle.
Have you tried Wallender (not in the strict legal sense you understand)? Are they worth reading, or the printed version of the Killing which has just been on BBC4?

Wallender: Henning Mankell
Worth a read. Found them slow and a bit dark. For a lighter read I would go for Ian Rankin or Ian Banks' The Crow Road (good read).

Agree they are worth a go but I found them quite slow going.
Michael connelly is a good author

What the beejeejus has any of this got to do with Matt Diskin, I mean Danny Buderus.

16 errors "this" week even worse than "last" week

better do better on sunday!