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| Quote ="Swarcliffe Rhino"Lets not. It was done to death before.'"
No your right. But you know it will come out after the game. Personally I think Bedsy will play a blinder on Sunday, after that statement he has a point to prove also.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"after that statement he has a point to prove also.'"
Multi-cap Australian Test and State of Origin hooker Danny Buderus has absolutely zero point to prove to Matt Diskin IMO.
The "dig" is more at McLennan's selection policy, but then again it's easy to take shots in the local media once the guy has relocated to the other side of the world.
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| Looks like Bailey is fit for Sunday:
[urlhttp://therhinos.co.uk/news/15919.php[/url
Be interesting what the team will line up. Will there be a full bench of forwards? Two hookers? What does everyone think?
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| With Ganson in the middle will we see 30+ penalties and plenty of cards?
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"With Ganson in the middle will we see 30+ penalties and plenty of cards?'"
Depends if you lot behave. We'll be squeaky clean to please our new boss.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Depends if you lot behave. We'll be squeaky clean to please our new boss.'"
Somehow I very much doubt that
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| Leeds still have a pretty strong squad - they need to play Watkins for the speed and the potential attacking option he provides
I am not a big fan of four forwards on the bench so I would have two props, McShane and Senior to give some variety.
If you look at the players that will not get a game you have half a side that would get a game in most other SL sides - so I would not be writing this team off just yet.
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| Not nit picking or owt but im sure having a 2nd look at my calendar we r in 2011 not 2010 as the thread indicates lol
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| Ref S Ganson TJ W Turley TJ T Martin VR R SIlverwood
Confirmed.
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| "gerremarnside" Ganson and Lumpawood. Great.
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| Im happy with that. Should prevent Bulls from slowing us down.
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| Somewhere in a William Hills in Bratfud Mick Gledhill has just exploded
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Im happy with that. Should prevent Bulls from slowing us down.'"
Out of interest, how are you coming to that conclusion?
I actually like Ganson as a ref. He is certanly not a nice man, it seems, but as a ref I personally think he is usually consistent for both sides. However, of all the refs I think previously he has given the most latitude to holding down in the tackle. Tries to not blow his whistle when possible.
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Ian Smith has retired as a full time referee and will be overseeing the development of officials at the RFL.
I suspect that Robert Hicks, Tim Roby and Warren Turley will cover his SL games this year. All excellent young referees.
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Ian Smith has retired as a full time referee and will be overseeing the development of officials at the RFL.
I suspect that Robert Hicks, Tim Roby and Warren Turley will cover his SL games this year. All excellent young referees.
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| Quote ="The Teacher" Tries to not blow his whistle when possible.'"
You are kidding right? Does he not hold the record ?
He is the best ref out there imo. SO if the RFL are clamping down the ruck spoiling I would like to have Mr Ganson the one doing that job for my team.
Bulls cannot match Leeds for speed. If Leeds get quick ptb's then Leeds will run riot.
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| Quote ="The Teacher"Out of interest, how are you coming to that conclusion?
I actually like Ganson as a ref. He is certanly not a nice man, it seems, but as a ref I personally think he is usually consistent for both sides. However, of all the refs I think previously he has given the most latitude to holding down in the tackle. Tries to not blow his whistle when possible.'"
Not afraid to send someone off either.
Too many referees prefer to rely on post-match disciplinary panels to pick up the pieces rather than reach for the back pocket.
You could almost see the excitement on his face when he was lucky enough to dismiss Mozza after 10 seconds. Sent someone off at the weekend too in a friendly. Good lad.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Ian Smith has retired as a full time referee and will be overseeing the development of officials at the RFL.
I suspect that [uRobert Hicks[/u, Tim Roby and Warren Turley will cover his SL games this year. All excellent young referees.'"
Not yet imo the 2 best up and coming are Jamie Leahy and Gareth Thewer and both are already better than Alibert ,Child ,Smith and Silverw@*k!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Not afraid to send someone off either.
Too many referees prefer to rely on post-match disciplinary panels to pick up the pieces rather than reach for the back pocket.'"
That's probably because historically there have been way too many players sent off only to be found not guilty at the disciplinary the following Tuesday. Sorry but it's too late by then, after the game has been unduly affected by an incorrect decision.
As for Ganson, who was it that ducked out on the Carl Ablett/Sam Tomkins call at Headingley last season? A challenge incidently that the disciplinary considered worthy of a three game ban, IIRC. While in the same game sending Andy Coley to the sin-bin for basically absolutely nothing at all.
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| Quote ="tvoc" While in the same game sending Andy Coley to the sin-bin for basically absolutely nothing at all.'"
I presumed it was awarded to him for being the dumbest player in Super League.
If not, my bad.
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| Quote ="tvoc"That's probably because historically there have been way too many players sent off only to be found not guilty at the disciplinary the following Tuesday. Sorry but it's too late by then, after the game has been unduly affected by an incorrect decision.
As for Ganson, who was it that ducked out on the Carl Ablett/Sam Tomkins call at Headingley last season? A challenge incidently that the disciplinary considered worthy of a three game ban, IIRC. While in the same game sending Andy Coley to the sin-bin for basically absolutely nothing at all.'"
I appreciate that referees get it wrong and are often found by the disciplinary to have overreacted. However I'd prefer to witness a few miscarriages of justice than have referees ducking out of tough decisions.
The laws of the game state that the referee's power to temporarily dismiss a player should not be used as an excuse for not sending off a player for conduct warranting dismissal. It seems as though these days it would be appropriate to also include the 'on-report' process to this instruction. It's a total cop-out.
Using your example, of what benefit was Carl Ablett's 3 match ban to Wigan? Imagine Tomkins had suffered a broken jaw and was out for the season, and that Leeds had gone on to win that game. Do you think that Wigan would feel sufficiently recompensed by Ablett receiving an enforced rest before the CC final?
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| ablett should have walked but tompkins brother should have gone too. But i suppose if you don't get carded for kicking a player who's defenceless on the floor you are pretty much immune
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| Agreed. He got quite a rep last year for being a dirty git Mr J Tompkins, granted to the main he did back it up but this year im sure a few players will have thier eyes open for him.
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