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| Aussie crock? I like your postings but that's a load of knackers mate.
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| Quote ="G1"Indeed and you know what, during much of that time, he was working in property. So, I still don't understand your issue. You thought this was something new he was doing because of the wording of the article. It isn't.'"
He was working in property of his own, not for anyone else. I would have thought the expectations may well have been different.
Quote ="G1"Diskin HAS gone to the Bulls to increase his opportunity to play international rugby. Whilst he may or may not get selected his chances of doing so are far greater if playing longer stints as the main man at Bradford, rather than playing in 15 minute stints behind the Aussie crock. Good for him for having such ambition rather than coasting out his career at Leeds.'"
He was given too much game time at Leeds last season, that was the problem. Now he will go to playing 15 minute stints behind another Aussie who was Bradfords star man last season.
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| Quote ="G1"Indeed and you know what, during much of that time, he was working in property. So, I still don't understand your issue. You thought this was something new he was doing because of the wording of the article. It isn't.
Diskin HAS gone to the Bulls to increase his opportunity to play international rugby. Whilst he may or may not get selected his chances of doing so are far greater if playing longer stints as the main man at Bradford, rather than playing in 15 minute stints behind the Aussie crock. Good for him for having such ambition rather than coasting out his career at Leeds.'"
I agree with most of this and that it does show good ambition that he is willing to move to further his career. I can't see your point regarding "Aussie crock". IMO he is far better than diskin and we looked a lot faster and dynamic with Buderus than we did with diskin on the field last year, and didn't get as much game time as he was not good enough. The only mistake was not playing buderus longer. We also have two very good young hookers who would have also been challenging diskin this year. I still like diskin and will give him a good welcome my only point is think you are being harsh on BUderus.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Snip'"
You're just annoyed that it's not a face painting business.
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| Quote ="The Teacher"He was working in property of his own, not for anyone else. I would have thought the expectations may well have been different.
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You're familiar with his business interests then and now are you? Your post suggest you aren't.
I apologise for referring to the Aussie crock an Aussie crock. he's been a picture of health and fitness since joining us. No, really.
Damn that pesky Diskin for taking away precious game time away from Buderus. Imagine how much faster and dynamic we would have been in 2009 had Diskin not come into the team as they went unbeaten from July en route to their third consecutive GF win. You know, not being Dynamic and fast on those October nights in 2009, 2008, 2007 and 2004 has really taken the shine off my memories.
Still, I have my memories of the dynamism and pace the team showed in the glorious 2010 campaign with the Aussie crock getting the lions share of game time. Pesky Diskin can never take those away from me, like he took precious game minutes away from the the darling of Headingley, that sexy, pacy dynamic Aussie crock.
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| This Bulls fan is delighted that we have signed a guy who is smart enough to recognise he needs a future after the game, and something sensible to invest his spare time in other than his games console, beer and a settee to lounge on all day.
You get plenty of free time as a professional RL player. He's making better use of some of that than many do. Good lad.
Good for him - I'm even more chuffed we signed him now.
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| Quote ="G1"You're stirring up something that just isn't there and making yourself look silly.
Matt has been working in property development for quite some time, including during his Leeds career.
He was working in property in 2009 and that didn't interfere with his playing commitment to Leeds. The only thing that interfered with Matt's playing commitment was the clubs decision to sign an over the hill, injury prone expensive Aussie. Once that hindrance was out of the way in 2009 Matt was able to play a major role in our unbeaten run and 3rd consecutive GF.
HTH'"
Good job the likes of Sinfield, Peacock and McGuire stepped up to the mark - helped to mask the ineffective contribution of some of the team mates!!
Let's face it Ian Kirke has won as many rings in the last 4 years as Matt Diskin?
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| Can't believe this has turned into a Disco is better than "some old issue crock" debate again! They play against each other in a couple of weeks, let battle commence.
As for Discos other job, good on him. There are loads of players who own / run other businesses or carry on studying. Can't see it affecting his play.
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| I just happened to come across Matt during my property hunt in Aug/Oct last year, just a couple of days after the CC final loss. He seemed to have a lot of time on his hands, every time I asked for a property viewing or to exchange documents he seemed to have a very open schedule. What do people actually think a rugby players typical day involves? Training the house down working the 9 till 5? Hardly.
What about Burrows Physiotherapy business? When will his commitment be in question? What about when JJB, Willie and Sinny we're doing their sports science degree? Which I would imagine was pretty demanding. Ok there is nothing like been a part time director of 'a fast growing company' but come on...
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| Quote ="G1"
I apologise for referring to the Aussie crock an Aussie crock. he's been a picture of health and fitness since joining us. No, really.
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Yeah, the Aussie crock that made 23 appearances last season, more than diskin infact.
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| Quote ="G1"You're familiar with his business interests then and now are you? Your post suggest you aren't.
I apologise for referring to the Aussie crock an Aussie crock. he's been a picture of health and fitness since joining us. No, really.
Damn that pesky Diskin for taking away precious game time away from Buderus. Imagine how much faster and dynamic we would have been in 2009 had Diskin not come into the team as they went unbeaten from July en route to their third consecutive GF win. You know, not being Dynamic and fast on those October nights in 2009, 2008, 2007 and 2004 has really taken the shine off my memories.
Still, I have my memories of the dynamism and pace the team showed in the glorious 2010 campaign with the Aussie crock getting the lions share of game time. Pesky Diskin can never take those away from me, like he took precious game minutes away from the the darling of Headingley, that sexy, pacy dynamic Aussie crock.'"
I agree that Diskin has been an excellent servant to the club.
But to credit him for the '04,'07,'08 and '09 victories and lament Buderus for the '10 campaign is ridiculous in the extreme. Now, I suspect that you were using this gross oversimplification with your tongue firmly in cheek, but you should remember that not everyone on here is as intuitive as me.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"
What about Burrows Physiotherapy business? When will his commitment be in question? What about when JJB, Willie and Sinny we're doing their sports science degree? Which I would imagine was pretty demanding. ..'"
They haven't signed for another club so it's not an issue. As soon as they're not Rhinos the fekkwitts will turn on them.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I agree that Diskin has been an excellent servant to the club.
But to credit him for the '04,'07,'08 and '09 victories and lament Buderus for the '10 campaign is ridiculous in the extreme. Now, I suspect that you were using this gross oversimplification with your tongue firmly in cheek, but you should remember that not everyone on here is as intuitive as me.'"
I take your point. How on earth can you give any credit to Diskin, for example, for the 2004 campaign. OK, so he was that season's player of the year and, OK, so he did win the Harry Sunderland award but, come on, that accent just won't win the hearts of the whino faithful.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Good job the likes of Sinfield, Peacock and McGuire stepped up to the mark - helped to mask the ineffective contribution of some of the team mates!!
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It is isn't it. Now that Buderus doesn't have Diskin holding him back maybe there's no more excuses this year is there? Maybe Buderus might win the odd man of the match award here or there this year, let alone player of the year, let alone win a GF let alone pick up a Harry Sunderland.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"This Bulls fan is delighted that we have signed a guy who is smart enough to recognise he needs a future after the game, and something sensible to invest his spare time in other than his games console, beer and a settee to lounge on all day.
You get plenty of free time as a professional RL player. He's making better use of some of that than many do. Good lad.
Good for him - I'm even more chuffed we signed him now.'"
Original poster, you have you answer. You made your nonsensical non point very well indeed.
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| Quote ="G1"I take your point. How on earth can you give any credit to Diskin, for example, for the 2004 campaign. OK, so he was that season's player of the year and, OK, so he did win the Harry Sunderland award but, come on, that accent just won't win the hearts of the whino faithful.'"
The point I was trying to make was that it is barmy to credit one player for the collective achievements of a special group of players, whilst simultaneously blaming one player for poor performances. A game of rugby league has never been won by one player on his own.
It would be equally as barmy to blame the trophyless 2010 season on Delaney. It was all going well before he showed up.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"
It would be equally as barmy to blame the trophyless 2010 season on Delaney. It was all going well before he showed up.'"
Well, his form was pretty ordinary. But he has the right kind of accent. He produced nothing last year that Ashley Gibson had not produced before him.
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| Quote ="G1"You're stirring up something that just isn't there and making yourself look silly.
Matt has been working in property development for quite some time, including during his Leeds career.
He was working in property in 2009 and that didn't interfere with his playing commitment to Leeds.
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Suprisingly, i agree G. Numerous times throughout 2010 he advertised his property company through twitter. His game was never distracted and tbh, i feel he managed his time well between both Leeds & Millennia.
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| Quote ="G1"You're stirring up something that just isn't there and making yourself look silly.
Matt has been working in property development for quite some time, including during his Leeds career.
He was working in property in 2009 and that didn't interfere with his playing commitment to Leeds. The only thing that interfered with Matt's playing commitment was the clubs decision to sign an over the hill, injury prone expensive Aussie. Once that hindrance was out of the way in 2009 Matt was able to play a major role in our unbeaten run and 3rd consecutive GF.
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Nail....head. Some people on here just make themselves look silly.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Or Lunt. Or Sinfield.
I'm going to stick my neck on the line and say that we'll be seeing Paul McShane in an England shirt before Matt Diskin wears one again.'"
And I'll stick mine out and say we'll see Adam O'Brien in one before Paul McShane
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| Quote ="The Teacher"He was working in property of his own, not for anyone else. I would have thought the expectations may well have been different.
He was given too much game time at Leeds last season, that was the problem. Now he will go to playing 15 minute stints behind another Aussie who was Bradfords star man last season.'"
erm no he wont. your reading too much into way potters assigned squad numbers. As a new coach coming in he doesnt have much knowledge of players to base assigning squad numbers on. As such he's gone down route of giving all remaining senior players from last year a number in 17 then giving new signings remaining numbers. hence why l'estrange remains as 9 and diskin gets 14. In reality its almost certain that diskin will get the starting hooking role, as it suits his game better, and l'estrange will come off bench as thats where he excels. think gametime will be pretty evenly split between them.
As for the stuff about diskins off field business activities. Doesnt bother me in the slightest. At least he's got the good sense to know he needs to plan for life after rugby. As long as he meets his training and playing commitments then what he does in his free time is entirely upto him and I'd rather he was doing something like this than sitting round nandos or playing a games console which seems to be a lot of rugby players chief pastimes judging by their twitter feeds.
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| Quote ="New_Farnley_Bull"And I'll stick mine out and say we'll see Adam O'Brien in one before Paul McShane'"
Basically the England 9 shirt is waiting for Logan Tomkins to have half a dozen good games or less! then he will be hailed as the next big thing and the media fest will ensue at the Thought of the 3 tomkin twunts playing together.
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| I'm glad nobody brought Buderus into a thread about Diskin for once.
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| I hope that Diskin can carve a career away from RL, I really do and although I respect him and his achievements in a Leeds shirt, he’s now an opposition player and is held in regard as such.
Away from the pitch I think he’s a bit of a cheap shot merchant – it’s no coincidence that he announced his move to the Bulls only once he’d reaped every penny that he could from us through his testimonial events/merchandise. Also he turned his heart-felt and oh so sincere ‘Open farewell letter to the Leeds fans’ into a free advertising opportunity for his new venture.
Good luck to you Matt but TBH I couldn’t give a stuff any more, you’ve had enough of my hard earned already.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"I hope that Diskin can carve a career away from RL, I really do and although I respect him and his achievements in a Leeds shirt, he’s now an opposition player and is held in regard as such.
Away from the pitch I think he’s a bit of a cheap shot merchant – it’s no coincidence that he announced his move to the Bulls only once he’d reaped every penny that he could from us through his testimonial events/merchandise. Also he turned his heart-felt and oh so sincere ‘Open farewell letter to the Leeds fans’ into a free advertising opportunity for his new venture.
Good luck to you Matt but TBH I couldn’t give a stuff any more, you’ve had enough of my hard earned already.'"
I kind of agree, but its a dog eat dog world out there, every man for himself. His letter was a bit of an embarrassment slap n the face...but can you blame him. There is rarely any loyalty in sport. Its a business.
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