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| Breaking news on sky sports news says they have gone into administration this morning!
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| I bet Paul Johnson and Stuart Reardon are really pleased....
If a club goes into Administration don't all the players become free agents as effectively the club have breached their contract by not paying them?
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| There will be some happy Wakey and Cas fans.
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| They have got to go now in the next round of franchises
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"There will be some happy Wakey and Cas fans.'"
But expect some mouth frothing from Widnes way
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| Interesting that it is 'the sleeves' friend and sponsor to a current rhinos player that has been appointed as Administrator....
Should make any potential deals to sign any of their players much easier.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"There will be some happy Wakey and Cas fans.'"
Too much of a stretch of the imagination for me.
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| Quote ="Marrob"Interesting that it is 'the sleeves' friend and sponsor to a current rhinos player that has been appointed as Administrator....
Should make any potential deals to sign any of their players much easier.'"
Maybe GH will show his generosity again & take some of their players off their hands as he did with Keighley all those years ago.
Unfortunately, that can't happen to the same extent due to the salary cap & quota limits.
Can we now expect Shirt 20 to be allocated to Mr Hauraki? Or Sammut even? Only to help out the Welsh of course.
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| I think we should sign Gareth Thomas - can you imagine the apoplexy it would cause at The Jungle next season, they'd self-combust before they worked out which bit of the club to hate first
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| Oh dear... never mind.
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| If it will help then I'm sure leeds will do there best to take a few good players off them.
As for celtic the RFL have to let them grow in the championship for a few years maybe back in super league in 6 years time
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| if they do go back into the championhip for 6 years i dont think they will survive
The scarlets used to do 1 round of union there in the celtic league but crowds were poor they have been poor at times for league. unfortunately there is no appatite in wrexham
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| Manufactured synthetic contrived Rugby League clubs that get hot housed into areas of this land that have never even heard of RL let alone have any interest in it are doomed from the start.
Maybe now the mentally challenged gifferes at Red Hall will realise that their recourses will be better spent nurturing our great sport in its heartland instead of trying polish a turd.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Manufactured synthetic contrived Rugby League clubs that get hot housed into areas of this land that have never even heard of RL let alone have any interest in it are doomed from the start.
Maybe now the mentally challenged gifferes at Red Hall will realise that their recourses will be better spent nurturing our great sport in its heartland instead of trying polish a turd.'"
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"
Maybe now the mentally challenged gifferes at Red Hall will realise that their recourses will be better spent nurturing our great sport in its heartland instead of trying polish a turd.'"
And the danger is that here, in its heartlands, where it is barely supported anyway, it will languish and die a slow death hastened only when players leave for more lucrative contracts in RU. The RFU got to the professional party late but stole the show from us years ago.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"And the danger is that here, in its heartlands, where it is barely supported anyway, it will languish and die a slow death hastened only when players leave for more lucrative contracts in RU. The RFU got to the professional party late but stole the show from us years ago.'"
…and, IMO of course, that’s exactly why the limited recourses that the RFL have at their disposal should be aimed at rekindling interest in this sport where is has a sustainable chance of growth.
Rugby League in its ‘heartlands’ is far from reaching saturation point. Interest breeds interest – how many of us were introduced to RL by a friend or family member? I’m guessing all of us.
The RFL need to be looking at ‘Recommend a Friend’ or ‘Free for a Friend’ schemes instead of trying to generate interest from scratch.
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| When its basing itself in small towns in a very limited area of operation and generating sub-7000 crowds, whether heartlands or not, its not going to command the big money that Sky can offer and will go the same way as UK Ice Hockey and Basketball, a niche market only for those who are dedicated to the sport, not for casual observers and certainly not in sufficient numbers to justify a prime slot on Sky Sports One, when that sponsor goes then start ringing the bell because its over then.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"When its basing itself in small towns in a very limited area of operation and generating sub-7000 crowds, whether heartlands or not, its not going to command the big money that Sky can offer and will go the same way as UK Ice Hockey and Basketball, a niche market only for those who are dedicated to the sport, not for casual observers and certainly not in sufficient numbers to justify a prime slot on Sky Sports One, when that sponsor goes then start ringing the bell because its over then.'"
That’s the scary thing about professional RL in this country. It is the sports Pay Masters that will decide if or when RL will die on its ar[size=100s[/sizee. If they pull the plug then, although the sport will survive, it won’t have the cash to keep its best players and we’ll be back to those semi amateur days where your post match chats with the players will be more about negotiating the price of a new patio than how the game went.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"That’s the scary thing about professional RL in this country. It is the sports Pay Masters that will decide if or when RL will die on its ar[size=100s[/sizee. If they pull the plug then, although the sport will survive, it won’t have the cash to keep its best players and we’ll be back to those semi amateur days where your post match chats with the players will be more about negotiating the price of a new patio than how the game went.'"
Which is exactly what will happen, almost instantly, if we give up on the likes of Crusaders and Quins.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Which is exactly what will happen, almost instantly, if we give up on the likes of Crusaders and Quins.'"
Quins may be a necessary evil to appease our Pay Masters by having a presence in our capital but Celtic was a total ‘none-starter’ from the offing.
It’s another failed experiment that will inevitably simply serve to embarrass our sport further.
Sponsorship cash = performing monkeys? Maybe a bit too far but would I rather watch top class RL that has to constantly suffer humiliation or semi-pro, parochial, low attendance RL?
Honestly…??? I’d have to think about it.
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| I don't even care anymore. We've fought this long enough. If we're going to continue trying ot expand and failing then it's probably time to merge the two games and play a hybrid version (which of course would ultimately be closer to RL).
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"I don't even care anymore. We've fought this long enough. If we're going to continue trying ot expand and failing then it's probably time to merge the two games and play a hybrid version (which of course would ultimately be closer to RL).'"
It's a shame but I do think what you propose is inevitable. It will take longer thanks only to the NRL continued success.
It makes me laugh how much the media is raving about England's performance in th RU international last Saturday. It was pretty good for RU match but one try from a pass after being tackled to the ground and another we see all time in RL were hardly worth so much hysteria.
However RU has that greater dominance certainly at the prestigious international level and that won't change. The irony of the mediocre or more mature ex RL players making it "big" in the high profile England and NZ RU sides is not insignificant.
In another 100 years our descendents will be praising the sport's governing body for the bold and dramatic move of reducing the total number on the field to just 13 whilst increasing the difference in scoring for a try. The little provincial game played in the old working class regions of the Northern mill towns will be long forgotten.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"I don't even care anymore. We've fought this long enough. If we're going to continue trying ot expand and failing then it's probably time to merge the two games and play a hybrid version (which of course would ultimately be closer to RL).'"
This is what Sky has wanted all along.
Beware Greeks bearing gifts.
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| This talk of rugby outside the heartlands not being successful....what about the Scorpions and Crusaders and the number of players generated for the Wales team.....you know the team that are European champions two years on the bounce.
I understand that there are a fair share of conversions from other countries, but what about players who have come across from union? these can only boost the pool of players and go on to promote the game all over Wales. Again, I know some will say that they are the ones not good enough for big union careers, but that is not necessarily the case.
I would think that a creditable interntional game is important to League and the current set up of four nations in different hemispheres, the European cup and so on is a better way to promote internationals....isn't it?
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| I think people think that success will happen overnight. I think the Welsh experiment has been rushed, and the club didn't have the infrastructure in place to cope, but I think that the long term view should prevail, and we should persist with them.
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