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| we might just have to accept a transition period during the next couple of seasons
theres no doubt that the next coach had a huge job with so many leeds players likely to leave at the end of the 2011 season
webb,senior,leuluai,buderus,peacock and lauititti could all be leaving and mcguire,burrow and sinfieldwill be 30 or over in 2012
i really hope mcdermott is successful but we need some inspiring signings and some good youngsters pushing for 1st team places
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| Brian mac will do well
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| Tony Smith, know nowt no-mark who had never won anything or done anything of note. Brian McLennan, no-mark know nowt bartercard cup manager (guffaw who had never won anything or done anything of note.
I desperately hope McDermott is more of the same.....
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| As a Quins supporter I was overwhelmed with joy at his departure - by this time next year Hetherington could well be deeply regretting this.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"so all this talk from the Dulls about us finishing outside the 8 etc/start of the decline etc is just garbage.
McDermott's appointment seems very much like it was in the long term plan for a long term solution post-current crop if you ask me. The fact that it's come a year earlier makes little or no difference. Not at all disappointed, let's just see if GH has got it right.
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to be fair the the bulls u cannot fault them for this reaction. They are just going on experience of there own shambolic rebuilding proccess.
Having said that I'd sheriffe suddenly appears on our player roster I will start to pannic!!!!
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| The Worrlord cometh...
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| Quote ="Bullseye"The Worrlord cometh...'"
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| The main things I worry about with the McDermott appointment, is how it will affect our attacking play, whether he can produce the gameplans and whether he is willing to drop players who do not perform.
The things I expect/hope from him are to bring a lot of discipline to the squad, have a high standard of fitness/strength and to be the best defensive team in the league.
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| I'll base my judgment once were at least half way into the new season. He could shake things up again and revitalise the likes of JJB, Ablett and Webb, new ideas and ways of thinking or always good. It will also be interesting on the recruitment front with the sounds of another overseas player and possible coach coming over aswell. I just hope everyone has patience for McDermott to settle in before we are calling for his head.
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| The only opinion I can give of McDermott is based on his past record as a Head Coach of another SL club which, TBH, isn’t that brilliant.
I’m not filled with hope but only time will tell – either a stroke of inspired genius or a cheap option which will come back to bite our ar[size=100s[/sizee.
I really hope it’s not the latter but I’ve not got a good feeling about his one.
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| It sounds to me like Leeds fans are trying to talk themselves into believing that McDermott is a good appointment, when deep down they know he is not the quality of coach they would expect at their club.
I know if I was a Leeds fan I would not be happy.
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| Quote ="Sandy Flaps"It sounds to me like Leeds fans are trying to talk themselves into believing that McDermott is a good appointment, when deep down they know he is not the quality of coach they would expect at their club.
I know if I was a Leeds fan I would not be happy.'"
Spot on.
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| Why would Leeds fans worry about GH making Brian Mac head coach? His record of appointing head coaches over last 6 years or so has been pretty rewarding.
Fans of other clubs are clearly jealous of Leeds, hence their snide comments.
Unlike other clubs in Yorkshire, the future of Leeds looks pretty good to me
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| Quote ="Sandy Flaps"It sounds to me like Leeds fans are trying to talk themselves into believing that McDermott is a good appointment, when deep down they know he is not the quality of coach they would expect at their club.
I know if I was a Leeds fan I would not be happy.'"
We've no idea as to whether he'll be a good appointment, but we're willing to give him a chance, even if it is a season earlier than we thought.
And as you're not a Leeds fan, don't you be worrying your pretty little head about us.
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| simply put: no, not at all.
He's shown little at harlequins to suggest he can cut it at a big club. Yeah i know, limited resources yadda yadda.
Saints, wigan and warrington have a major major advantage over us in the coaching department before you even discuss team sheets.
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| He taught TS everything he knows......
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Voted yes, but ask again after 15rounds of SL'"
I think he should be given time, and I think his remit is re-building. I think we'll struggle to be champions next season, but we need to manage this transition well
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| Quote ="Banielates"Saints, wigan and warrington have a major major advantage over us in the coaching department before you even discuss team sheets.'"
Saints do? How?
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I think he should be given time, and I think his remit is re-building. I think we'll struggle to be champions next season, but we need to manage this transition well'"
rebuilding
rebuilding what?
Only 1 year ago we had won 3 titles on the trot. Donald and diskin leave and suddenly, magically we are rebuilding.
Geez, imagine if clarkson left? we'd be in MAJOR TRANSITION.
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"Why would Leeds fans worry about GH making Brian Mac head coach? His record of appointing head coaches over last 6 years or so has been pretty rewarding.
Fans of other clubs are clearly jealous of Leeds, hence their snide comments.
Unlike other clubs in Yorkshire, the future of Leeds looks pretty good to me
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Couldn't agree more
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"The only opinion I can give of McDermott is based on his past record as a Head Coach of another SL club which, TBH, isn’t that brilliant.'"
He did his job at London which was to turn the club from an over reliance on Australians to a club bringing through British talent.
Shame he couldn't have persuaded McCarthy Scarsbrook to move to Leeds instead of St Helens.
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| Quote ="Banielates"simply put: no, not at all.
He's shown little at harlequins to suggest he can cut it at a big club. Yeah i know, limited resources yadda yadda.
Saints, wigan and warrington have a major major advantage over us in the coaching department before you even discuss team sheets.'"
Just so we're clear, you're talking about the St Helens who have appointed a coach who, prior to being an assistant at Wests Tigers was sacked by Hull and had a largely uninspiring spell in charge of Penrith, and Wigan who last season appointed an a coach who had never held a head coaches role previously? The latter didn't seem to do that badly if I remember rightly.
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| Brian McDermott has absolutely no credentials which entitle him to take over a champion club in Leeds and is the worst appointment that you could possibly make.
Harlequins looked like being relegated with two games to go in his first season in 2006 before he pulled clear to 7th. He then finished 9th, 9th, 11th and 13th in his next four full seasons. He was on a downward spiral from the start and it ended with something like 7 wins from his last 38 games.
His cup performances were diabolical and he only won about 40 from 120 games all in. He is almost as bad as his namesake Steve Mac, who is probably the only weaker appointment you could have got.
He gets one good win a season on average but against Quins peers he has been shocking. His win record at home against Salford the season they went down in 2007 was a draw; an away defeat with no tries and a narrow win after they were already down. When they returned he lost against them at home in 2009 and again both home and away in 2010. He has failed to ever win at Wakefield Wildcats. He has been slaughtered at home by Castleford 0-48 and 13-65 twice in the last three years. He can be counted on not to win against even the smaller rivals.
Mistakenly he has had the credit for the Tony Rea proteges of Clubb, Sharp, Worrincy and McCarthy-Scarsbrook when they were not brought through by him but already had been introduced. He has instead brought through the far lesser known Bolger and Krasniqui plus much poorer players like O'Callaghan, Williams and that's about it in five years. The better players in this list have mainly left and of his signings only Jason Golden and Luke Gale have been relatively good.
He has also made a massive amount of weak signings including many players he had previously coached like Ben Kaye, David Tootill, Matt James and Andy Smith, showing his poor judgement. Quins had the likes of Henry Paul, Scott Hill and Mark McLinden and he replaced them with signings who were pension players like Robinson, Williamson and other players with nothing left.
I like Leeds and I am shocked with such a disappointing bloke - he is curt and he is a loser.
Cheers
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| God help you......he is cack! Your senior squad members will maybe drag you along in 2011.....but after that, get ready for a bus load of 2nd Rowers being signed and then played out of position.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Just so we're clear, you're talking about the St Helens who have appointed a coach who, prior to being an assistant at Wests Tigers was sacked by Hull and had a largely uninspiring spell in charge of Penrith, and Wigan who last season appointed an a coach who had never held a head coaches role previously? The latter didn't seem to do that badly if I remember rightly.'"
Nrl education.
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