Wrexham aint that far away though, is it?
Cru...Cru...Crusaders!
Ok............Perhaps not.

Well according to the idiot commentators on sky they think hes a star at FB even as good as Darren Lockyear lmao. Not good enough to lace Lockyears boots

Ref Wellens..... I DID say "modicum" of attacking ability...meaning pace.

Mathers' performance at Wembley was the epitome of the best FB play for me....as you state quite correctly damn him.

I have high hopes for Jones - Bishop based only on the edited highlights I confess. He does appear to be blessed with the right attributes of reasonable bulk, technique and attacking pace/kick returns.

Deacons barely played this year, especially starting. He's usually come off the bench apart from the last 7 or 8 games when Sam moved to fb, which has coincided with most of our losses.

You're right....but only been the once back in January ...and then only to support the away team.

That was the time I thought Leeds had actually signed a brilliant right centre capable of putting the man outside him on a clear run to the line ( McGuire's try ).....instead of the second rower or even prop who is quite evidently playing out of position.

Despite the appeal of watching a top class scum half there I still prefer to get across to Leeds whenever I can .... My relative now out on long term basis still holds that greater appeal.

Maybe that's more a reflection of your apology of a choice of FB for those games ??

Did you watch our game on Friday? Richards was our defensive fullback and Sam was our Attacking fullback. Good luck trying to get past him. Although without McGuire I doubt you will be making many breaks anyway. Quiet night for Pat.

And good luck trying to stop Sam.

If you are honest, any team would love to have the Tomkins brothers in the team. They are two of the brightest hopes England have and Sam has already proved his worth at International level in last season's 4 Nations.

Ryan Bailey would not last 2 minutes against the Aussies. He would be found out for the coward that he is!

Fielden

Willie Mason.

Goodnight.

International career over.

Bailey has no class - admit it! Coward on the field, coward off the field!!

You've obviously never played Rugby League.
Its a tough sport. Especially in the amatuer ranks we're there is plenty of biff in the pack. Ryan Bailey came thou the amatuer ranks and earned himself a contract with one the the best Rugby League clubs in the world.

So tell me would you be able to do the same? Whether you like it or not every SL prop is hard as nails. You have to be to get to that level in the first place.

You can't have heard about the antics he got up to then.

Rattled is the word.

We need to shake the Ozzies around.

A left foot step and a penalty machine.

Jeez I bet Lockyer and Thaiday are losing sleep over facing "two of the brightest hopes England have".

Remind me again what Tomkins actually contributed in the 4 Nations last year? Eastmond p*ssed all over him IMO and looked much the better prospect of the two.

Merely worried for the lad's safety. We wouldn't wish him to come to any harm, especially when he cheats, and perhaps invoke the wrath of the 'Rugby Gods', would we?

Yeh suppose you're right.

McGuire made a great break at your place the other week when he then, passed to himself to score right?

What an odd comment. He doesn't worry me, I don't have to defend against him. I'm sure he has the coaches of most opposing teams worried, I haven't seen anybody here deny his ability. I still agree that he isn't a full back, and if I were Wigan's coach I'd want him where he gets his hands on the ball as often as possible.

As for England, we don't actually have a full back who's brilliant in attack and defence, so we have to choose one or the other. I think, however, that Sam Tomkins will probably be at 6 for England in November.

Makes me laugh defending Bailey over the tomkins, I think sam is a little over rated due to I feel his strength but that will come and so will a Wigan victory this weekend

lets get this straight someone has compared him to Lockyer !

You know Ryan Bailey personally?

Thought not.

Can you tie your own shoe laces?

Thought not.

Sam is very good going forward of that i have no doubt, but if Eastwood gets the ball all he will have is stud marks from where he has run over him and i think Joel like Bailey can sometimes be a bit of a liability but teams need a player that will rub the opposing teams up the wrong way. Some games it works and some it doesn't but away fans love to h8 Big Bailey. lol

Lol i know what you mean.
J.Tomkins 33 penatlies and 2 yellow cards this season are far worse than Bailey's 19 penaltiesicon_smile.gif

Or you could look over 3 seasons and see that they both have the same kind of disciplinary record compared to appearances and penalties.
Bailey 2007-2010
Apperances: 57
Penalties: 45

J.Tomkins 2007-2010
Apperances: 75
Penalties: 58

Bailey shouldn't be spocken in the same context to either of the Tomkins brothers he will never be near the England team and rightly so.

He has more international caps than Sam and Joel put together. HTH

Why do you think he would want to demean himself enough to play alongside the amoral (Sam), pusillanimous (Joel) brothers. ??

Bailey is a cowardly poo bag. Usually tries to bully the smallest oposing player then hides when the big boys come looking for him and he has more cheapshot tactics than any RL player I can think of,utter tosspot.