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| Anyone else heard the rumour that Solomona is out of the final?
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| I couldn't care less about Eastwood's commitment to the squad. We need him this weekend, he makes our chances of getting a win greater. But what the hell lets not play our strongest side so we can keep the more committed players happy. Its mens rugby, anyone would think it was the womens netball championship final the way some people are bitching.
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| The way I see it, if Eastwood is picked at prop, he isn't being picked ahead of Clarkson anyway, any more than say, Lee Smith would be picked ahead of Clarkson. Clarkson is not in contention for a prop position is he?
I would pick CLarkson ahead of Eastwood at second row, but that isn't what seems most likely to happen.
I'd also take Kirke as my 4th prop. That leaves positions at a premium for 3 second row spots. JJB, Ablett and Ali (if fit) would probably get the nod. That would be tough on Clarkson, but it wouldn't be Eastwood, or Kirke for that matter, who had been picked in his place. Clarkson isn't a prop, so he doesn't feature in the front row selection options.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"The problem is, few fans actually do really know what is going on. I imagine a few may have heard a snippet of gossip around Headingley and may think they know what is going on, but I doubt anyone who regularly posts on here knows the full story.
When I left the UK for a month's holiday it was all Beastwood this and Beastwood that, and he was even being touted by some as a future Man of Steel. When I returned a few weeks ago he's a suddenly a poor player, not fit to wear the shirt, and he's being booed by sections of the southstand.
I'm sure there is more to the situation than him just being homesick, and I'd imagine while he was recovering from one of his injuries he may have been approached by NRL clubs showing an interest. Even if he does go in the end and hasn't fitted in at Headingley for whatever reason, I have no reason to doubt his commitment to Leeds for this season at least (unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary). He's one of our better players this season when fit, why should he miss out on an important game?
It may yet transpire that Greg has a change of heart and decides to stay at Leeds (or is forced to do so contractually) - does this mean he is to be treated as a leper for the next two years?'"
very level headed intelligent response.
Lance Todd winner for me, go Greg whoop whoop!!
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"The problem is, few fans actually do really know what is going on. I imagine a few may have heard a snippet of gossip around Headingley and may think they know what is going on, but I doubt anyone who regularly posts on here knows the full story.
When I left the UK for a month's holiday it was all Beastwood this and Beastwood that, and he was even being touted by some as a future Man of Steel. When I returned a few weeks ago he's a suddenly a poor player, not fit to wear the shirt, and he's being booed by sections of the southstand.
I'm sure there is more to the situation than him just being homesick, and I'd imagine while he was recovering from one of his injuries he may have been approached by NRL clubs showing an interest. Even if he does go in the end and hasn't fitted in at Headingley for whatever reason, I have no reason to doubt his commitment to Leeds for this season at least (unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary). He's one of our better players this season when fit, why should he miss out on an important game?
It may yet transpire that Greg has a change of heart and decides to stay at Leeds (or is forced to do so contractually) - does this mean he is to be treated as a leper for the next two years?'"
Listen, I haven't booed Greg, nor was I sycophantic about him before the announcement he wanted out.
I understand these things happen and I understand why they happen. I don't really care if he's genuinely homesick or not. All I care about is whether he produces on the pitch. This season, for a variety of reasons, he hasn't. his commitment to the club is questionable. His commitment in training* is a microcosm of that and may be part of the reason he's been so injury prone and unfit.
However, none of the above gets under my skin. It's just a sad fact of life that he's a big daft lad** with a poor background who hasn't treated a club I love very well. What I don't need, however, is him making shallow rallying statements about putting his hand up for anything to help the club which is, frankly, hypocritical, bull. greg will put his hand up to benefit Greg, no more, no less. So, when I see BS I call BS.
*I've heard this from a definitive source which I won;t name but you can take it or leave it and I won't elaborate.
**With respect to McLaren_Field
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil" Its mens rugby, anyone would think it was the womens netball championship final the way some people are bitching.'"
Yes, stuff the players who are committed to the clubs future. They should man up. But the poor homesick fatty deserves buckets of sympathy in the meantime.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"But what the hell lets not play our strongest side so we can keep the more committed players happy.'"
You are Richie Eyres.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"But what the hell lets not play our strongest side so we can keep the more committed players happy. '"
Hence Diskin being in the team
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| Quote ="G1"*I've heard this from a definitive source which I won;t name but you can take it or leave it and I won't elaborate.'"
Its ok as I’m sure that Frosties has told a few other people than yourself
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| The same difinitive source that knows exactly how Luke Burgess feels?
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Nice one line summary.
Again you know how I feel.'"
when do you have the op?
must be painful having your nose permantly up his ar[ise[/i
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| If peacock and burgess were fit I think we would only be going with 3 props anyway.
so long minutes from bails. kylie and beast interchanging and Ali, ablett, jjb, senior delaney and clarkie making good yards.
That's my plan anywho!
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| Quote ="G1"Yes, stuff the players who are committed to the clubs future. They should man up. But the poor homesick fatty deserves buckets of sympathy in the meantime.'"
Out of interest do you have the same disdain of Lee smith who was homesick 200 miles down the road?
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Not a bad rag. Nice to read what the players are thinkin.
Mathers? Seems like a nice lad. D`ya think there`s a chance he`ll play for you again?
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Not a bad rag. Nice to read what the players are thinkin.
Mathers? Seems like a nice lad. D`ya think there`s a chance he`ll play for you again?
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| let's hope fatty fat fatty eastwood doesn't come up with the same blunders he did in the semi.
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| Quote ="tvoc"The same difinitive source that knows exactly how Luke Burgess feels?'"
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Out of interest do you have the same disdain of Lee smith who was homesick 200 miles down the road?'"
Not at all. Lee Smith honoured his contract at Leeds and returned at a time when we desperately needed him. Nor did Lee Smith, whilst negotiating his release from Wasps, make a statement in the press saying he would put his hand up and do whatever Wasps needed from him.
If I were a Wasps fan I might feel differently but I am not, i am a Leeds fan.
Do you really think Lee wanted out at Wasps because he was homesick or do you think it was because he wasn't getting picked?
Let me be clear, I have no issues with Eastwood playing Saturday, in fact we need him. I hope he plays a blinder and plays much, much better than he did against Saints and Cas. If he plays like he did in the unopposed training session Catalan gave us I will be delighted. What has irritated me is his statement about putting his hand up to help the club. It's BS. He's putting his hand up to play in a big game because it suits him. I'd rather he be as frank as he was last year when he said he didn't really want to come but he'd signed up and was stuck with us.
Have you bought this homesickness crap? Thought you were older in the tooth than that.
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| TMFTMITTISL will be one of them.
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| I think the homesickness may be an issue but not as much as being tapped up.however the bulldogs have signed Pritchard so not sure where that leaves Eastwood.wouldn't shock me if he ended up staying and I hope he does(if his attitude is right).
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| Quote ="Longford>Latchford via"Not a bad rag. Nice to read what the players are thinkin.
Mathers? Seems like a nice lad. D`ya think there`s a chance he`ll play for you again?'"
Not a chance imo Webb for another yr and then Bjb.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"wouldn't shock me if he ended up staying and I hope he does(if his attitude is right).'"
I'd agree with that.
Remember Saints tapping up Harris, him refusing GH's initial overtures and saying he wouldn't come to Leeds? Then Saints couldn't come up with the cash leaving Harris high and dray and at Headingley after all. Maybe Bulldogs have done the same to Eastwood.
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| That is the danger with clubs tapping up players. Get them all excited about a potential move then the club can't or won't follow through with it. I also expect Eastwood's agent has been playing silly beggars too.
FWIW I think if Eastwood wants to be taken seriously he should learn to either tell the whole story (came for the money and had a change of heart after deciding he liked living and playing in Sydney) or STFU.
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| Are you Joking...!!!!!
Quote ="Fatbelly"Is Eastwood big enough for Prop?
I have only seen him on the telly and whilst he is a great player he doesn't look like a prop.'"
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| Quote ="tad rhino"when do you have the op?
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The same time you had yours for removing any sense of satire from your brain.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Is Eastwood big enough for Prop?
I have only seen him on the telly and whilst he is a great player he doesn't look like a prop.'"
Looks more like a prop than the props
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