Yep bob on that mate! SaintsFan was mouthing off about how crap jp is and was in that game! says everything about that muppits assessment of a game! massive pair of blinkers on or what? typical of a saint really though.

Do you have the Saints stats for comparison? The geeks on our forum aren't as useful as the geeks on here obviously.

It was a busy week for me with the Waddington Airshow taking priority so sorry but no individual St Helens' stats for last week's game.

I agree. I think pressure on a kicker is good, but most chargedowns result in the tackle count being wiped clean

Please change the record re Kirke you're getting tiresome! It was a good play and had some one done the same on Pryce in the 4th min they would not have scored their 1st try.

Look forward to hearing another record from you next week!

Learn to quote, say something interest and I'll begin paying attention to you, no mark.

I note with interest you use the phrase single digit. Why change the terms of reference?

Kirke did 6 hit ups. Has Ablett ever recorded 6 hit ups and in what games were these?

Tip for you. When tvoc does this thread every week he also includes the previous weeks below.

Ablett

1 V Cas, went off injured
7 V Catalans
6 V Hull
9 V Warrington
9 V Bradford
9 V Crusaders
7 V Warrington

To answer your question directly: Ablett (leaving aside the Castleford game in Round 1 as he got an early injury) made 6 hit-ups V Hull at Home in Round 11. He started the game from the bench though (just as Kirke did on Saturday) where the games tend to open up a little after the initial arm wrestle, although I'm sure you will have taken that into account already before offering your critique.

As for 'ever' I'm not sure as I've only recorded the individual player weekly totals since the start of the 2009 season.

Ablett in 2009: (6 hit-ups and under)

Round 1 - Wakefield (H) - 6
Round 2 - Hull KR (A) - 3
Round 7 - Les Catalans (H) - 6
Round 9 - Salford (H) - 6
Round 13 - Castleford (A) - 6
Round 16 - Huddersfield (H) - 4
Round 26 - St Helens (H) - 6

I wouldn't have wanted to be Carl Ablett reading your comments last season based on those efforts....

The beneficial effects of a charge down aren't always seen immediately. While it often leads to a repeat set, it often induces the kicker to stand deeper on subsequent sets.

He probably put a damn site more aggression and impact into his work so he would have been fine.

I was thinking the same myself. Him getting back to fitness seems to have coincided with Leeds turn around in form this year. Having said it "coincided" I don't think there's any coincidence about it, I know it's a cliche but he really leads from the front.

Like your sig, Mr Pinner

A prime example of 'The Golden Rule' in all it's undoubted glory.



You asked a question you didn't know the answer to (always a dangerous policy), the evidence supplied appears unhelpful, not to worry it can be ruled out as inadmissable by Judge Judy.

Always that G1 was a 1/2 wit, now it's proven.

Mea Culpa.

First rule of cross examination. Never ask a question unless you already know the answer. Must admit, you lured me into it with your wording. I know you're usually quote precise so I took a punt. Didn't pay off.

I'll turn it around with my closing speech.

I suspect this is all way above your head so I'd be wary about getting involved if I were you.

Not getting involved, just stating you're a 1/2 wit.

Talking of half wits.



The above was posted before Bailey had played a game this season whereas Burgess had.













Oh, and....




Is there any chance of having that sentence without the missing words?

What has a quote taken from a topic re comments made by Jay Pitts in February got to do with this?

I suggest that you utilise your time more productively and get a life!

Only a half wit wouldn't see the relevance. Oh, that appears to be you.



I'd suggest you utilise your time more effectively and quit being a complete gloit. Unlikely I know but we live in hope.

That's him told.

The creche just keeps getting bigger G1, Era of the Biff and now thebloodbath

Well, if I might be so polite as to assist, it is helpful to consider the knowledge level of the author who chooses to call other, more respected posters, half wits. It's demonstrative of your level of rugby knowledge which, it's plain to see, is small to none. It also shows you have an IQ that is about room temperature.

You put your head above the parapet my friend which was plainly a bad idea as you would obviously be out of your depth in a car park puddle. Still, it's pleasing to see you set low standards but sad that you fail to achieve them.