Well he is only 32, nobbut a bairn.
Mind you he is in Bradford, so that would explain it.

I doubt very much he'll leave before the end of the season. I suspect that even if he wants to go back to Aus he'll consider Leeds unfinished business and to be frank his reputation a bit on the line.

BTW the issue about younger players learning off old hands is entirely valid - you simply don't learn on the training ground what you do in match conditions. McShane has been around Buderus for a year and a half. I'm sure he's laerned a few tricks. But would anyone argue right now he's ready to take over full time? No. Why not? Because he's barely played a first team game.

He was one of the shining lights in pre-season and I recon he would of done pretty well for Leeds this season hasn’t it been for the circumstances.

However I recon Buderus has got more than a few good games left in him at Leeds. I just hope that when he finally leaves we don’t have Matt Diskin gone by then. I think that’s the main worrying thing about this hooker factor we have going on at Leeds.

Heck Damo I agree with you. How so many people can seemingly be happy to see Diskin (that would be our 4-time Grand Final winning hooker) leave is beyond me. Buderus is here for this season and I hope we win evrything with him in the side. After that who knows? Personally I prefer to see locals in the team wherever possible - I think its a cornerstone of the team spirit in the side to have so many Leeds juniors in the side.

He's been great to watch and I wish him all the best but I want to see Diskin & McShane next near.

Scott Donald excepted, it's been the same for years with Auz recruits at Headingley... they never seem to stick around long enough.

Scott Donald isnt the only exception, look at Webb and Ali.

Granted Kiwis but its all the same ateotd.

Who was the last Aussie at headingley to not honour their contract (barring injuries).

I must be beyond you then

I'll take a guess at David Barnhill?

HOUSE !

I note 2 points . Our CE who hopefully can see the bigger picture, has made an offer, although whether it will be enough to keep our best hooker here for another season is a moot point.

The 2nd one, does anyone really think it's a coincidence that this story appears just as his agent hoves into view?

Who knows? There may be a twist yet.....Perhaps this guy has been influenced by the ageism arguement whilst reading these columns, and is actually here to sign up Disco!

Was that Wests guy injured and released? I can't remember his name - that's how much I want to forget we signed him.

Mark O'Neil, went to Hull KR after you

Did Carroll leave mid contract?

You could be right, I don't know the answer by the way, I'm waiting for TVOC to wake up (I'm not in his house or anything mind I just mean on the board).

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 104600.stm Quote had a clause in his three-year contract allowing a possible release at the end of the 2002 season'" Tonie Carroll

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 104600.stm Quote had a clause in his three-year contract allowing a possible release at the end of the 2002 season'" Tonie Carroll

If he has made an offer I'm sure it reflects his worth to the squad based on his performances whilst he has been with us.

Seems a good contender.

I agree. I've been one of Buderus's biggest defenders on here, but I wouldn't sacrifice losing Diskin or McShane for an extra year. Diskin still has a lot to offer, and has done so much for us, the other has so much potential

Get your point, but that worth should be on ability, rather than what he has done for us which to be honest a lot has been outside of his control.

Based on that he would be expected to be one of the top 5 earners.

Personally I am in the Buderus to stay camp. I thank Diskin for all he has done and wish him well, but would rather see Buderus on a 1 year additional contract than Diskin on a 2 or 3 year one. I think we need to change over the next 18 months, and McShane or Hood especially are the future.

So we would be paying a premium for the ability that he has shown at Newcastle?

I would let him go and keep Diskin & McShane

We are not we are paying for what he delivers on the field; in terms of contribution he deserves to be amongst the top earners in the club.

A very high quality player - one of his problems is the inability of many of his team mates to mentally keep up with him. Watch him is anticipation and reading of the game is beyond virtually everyone else in the team.

I agree.

I think we need to invest in a top class prop to help Peacock and Bailey. Is Kylie out of contract next year?

I'm talking about aussies not kiwi's.

You and me both brother.

We could probably still do that by releasing Diskin's wage though.