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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am a Hull fan who really didnt care who won today!
[size=150Didnt Coley rightly get penalised for lifting the player above the horizontal? Not sure what your point is tbh[/size.'"
Back of last weeks League Express is a picture of Andy Raleigh in exactly same position, guess what no penalty, maybe it's the different decisions for the same offences?.
Well done to Danny "Ronaldo" McGuire for the rolling around on the floor till Farrell was sent off (Wrong decision IMO as he was committed to the challenge)
Senior incident was correct decision IMO as not intentional as was messing at PTB but can't kick out.
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| I also thought the ref had a good game. When you consider the weather and the fact that was the ball stripped or was it a knock on i think he got most of the calls correct. the pen count may well of been high but it was not a dirty game.Just played at a high intensity that lead to a lot of errors from both teams.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am a Hull fan who really didnt care who won today!
Didnt Coley rightly get penalised for lifting the player above the horizontal? Not sure what your point is tbh.'"
My point is you failed to mention the Coley incident but thought JP should have had a yellow. Did you think Coley's incident was far less worse than JP's and did not warrant a mention?
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Yes there was no intention by Senior, just unlucky the guy got caught. BBC and Davis gave it some airtime in their post match analysis, though no mention of the dangerous tackle on Delany in the first half though. cant remember who the Wigan player who did it was but Im assuming it will be a trip to Red Hall for a two match ban?'"
Does Jonathan Davis EVER have a nice word to say about Leeds like?? It's a wonder no one chucked something at that Bradford/Hudd/Salford reject Robbie Paul in the interview with him and Senior afterwards too!! At least John Kear tried to remain impartial!
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| Quote ="Flying Scotty"Does Jonathan Davis EVER have a nice word to say about Leeds like?? It's a wonder no one chucked something at that Bradford/Hudd/Salford reject Robbie Paul in the interview with him and Senior afterwards too!! At least John Kear tried to remain impartial!'"
Regards the incident it was dealt with in the correct way for me, who is at the moment a slightly gutted Wigan fan. Silly play by Senior to kick his legs that high but no real intent, although I expect he will get a letter warning him about kicking out in future.
The Smith knock on in the build up to the Tomkins no try that Ganson ignored and the Farrell sin binning were 2 very contentious calls though for me.
At the end of the day though the game was there to be won by both sides and Leeds found a reason to win it, where as Wigan seemed content to defend the slender lead they had rather that trying to go out to win it. Congratulations and good luck in the rest of the cup.
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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"My point is you failed to mention the Coley incident but thought JP should have had a yellow. Did you think Coley's incident was far less worse than JP's and did not warrant a mention?'"
Yes I think stopping a player by tackling him around the head is more serious then the Coley incident and as I said more serious then the Farrell charge down.
I was under the impression that high shots would be dealt with more severely but clearly not. (Peacocks was not malicious but very high!)
Compare the penalties that Farrell and Peacock gave away and do you seriously think there is consistancy there?
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| The Farrell incident should not have been a penalty never mind a sin bin.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Yes I think stopping a player by tackling him around the head is more serious then the Coley incident and as I said more serious then the Farrell charge down.
I was under the impression that high shots would be dealt with more severely but clearly not. (Peacocks was not malicious but very high!)
Compare the penalties that Farrell and Peacock gave away and do you seriously think there is consistancy there?'"
Consistency is something there is not alot of with the current whistle blowers!!!!!
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| It was an accident but you shouldn't be kicking out like that in the tackle IMO. Keith senior, laying on the floor, his foot connected with joel tomkins who was stood up. For me that shouldn't be happening and they should outlaw kicking out in the tackle like that.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Consistency is something there is not alot of with the current whistle blowers!!!!!'"
Now then flop how's ya season going?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"It was a penalty and it was dealt with correctly at the time, not much else to say on the matter IMO.'"
I agree. But it's something they should look at changing. Kicking out like that should be a sinbin.
Theres absolutly no reason seniors feet should get anywhere near the head of an opposing player when he's on the floor during a tackle.
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| Quote ="jonh"The Farrell incident should not have been a penalty never mind a sin bin.'"
It was the correct decision. All SL half backs for all teams need more protection - They shouldn't have to worry about been clattered after they have kicked on the last tackle.
Like it or not the ball had left McGuire's boot, then a split second later he got clattered. I agree that Farrell could not get out of the way in time - but that was his own fault, why did he put himself in that position in the first place? Farrell put himself in a position where he would hit McGuire off the ball. No ifs no buts. Its in the rule book and Bentham had no choice but to sin bin Farrell.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"It was the correct decision. All SL half backs for all teams need more protection - They shouldn't have to worry about been clattered after they have kicked on the last tackle.
Like it or not the ball had left McGuire's boot, then a split second later he got clattered. I agree that Farrell could not get out of the way in time - but that was his own fault, why did he put himself in that position in the first place? Farrell put himself in a position where he would hit McGuire off the ball. No ifs no buts. Its in the rule book and Bentham had no choice but to sin bin Farrell.'"
All Farrell was doing was putting pressure on the kicker like all players are told to do. If there was an elbow in the collision or he had gone for McGuires standing leg (remember Ronnie Gibbs? ) then a yellow card or worse I agree.
The way things are going the kicker is going to become like a footie goalkeeper completely untouchable.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Now then flop how's ya season going?'"
Downhill fast!!!! need a lot of luck like you Whino's
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Consistency is something there is not alot of with the current whistle blowers!!!!!'"
Inconsistency is something you should be used to, supporting huddersfield.
Your season is in tatters, while ours is just gathering momentum.
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| Senior didn't intend do do it but should have been sent to the sin bin.
Mathers cleaned Matt King out the other year but didn't intend to and got a red card.
Farrell shouldn't have been sin binned, a penalty at the most.
Andy Coleys tackle on Delaney was a cracker, he wasn't injured and landed on his back, his legs flew up due to the impact of the tackle and the speed Delaney was going.
If he would have shoulder charged Delaney and he had landed the same way would it be deemed as a dangerous tackle?
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Downhill fast!!!! need a lot of luck like you Whino's
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TRue. If only that bounce of the ball hadn't gone against you, against warrington. You'd still be in the CC.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"TRue. If only that bounce of the ball hadn't gone against you, against warrington. You'd still be in the CC.'"
No when we played in the C/C the best team on the day won!!!!
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"It was the correct decision. All SL half backs for all teams need more protection - They shouldn't have to worry about been clattered after they have kicked on the last tackle.
Like it or not the ball had left McGuire's boot, then a split second later he got clattered. I agree that Farrell could not get out of the way in time - but that was his own fault, why did he put himself in that position in the first place? Farrell put himself in a position where he would hit McGuire off the ball. No ifs no buts. Its in the rule book and Bentham had no choice but to sin bin Farrell.'"
Never in a month of Sundays, all you do by that principle is penalise players for being omitted and giving 100%. There is a massive difference between a late hit and a player going for a legitimate charge down.
If you start penalising players who go in legally and wholeheartedly on kick pressure than Peacock is penalised for going in full pelt at Tomkins at the end and Leeds do not get the field position for the winning play.
Penalise the late hits, but not the legal committed challenge.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Althought it was completely accidental with no intention, '"
How do you know? I'd love to know how people know what is in the mind of other people. I think it is totally irrelevant whether that kick was accidental or not, Senior had no reason at all to kick like that - having your leg in the air doesn't help anyone to get up - and he should have seen a card of some colour for dangerous play.
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| A lot of players kick-out in the tackle – it is a tactic used to emphasise and exaggerate, even give the illusion that they are being held down and they are struggling to get upright.
I really don’t think it was Keefs intention was to cause injury but he made contact and was panelised (rightly so) but I really believe there as no malice intended and that no further action was needed.
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| The most blatant offender when it comes to kicking out after the tackle is that petulant little chap Sam Tomkins, so there was a smile on my face when he was well and truly scragged by Jamie at the end, and an even bigger one with the resultant try.
The early doors smack around the head was probably deserved as well!
One of the highlights of the day for me was the look on the faces of Noble and that annoying Welsh muppet Davies. The pair of them couldn't tip their Granny off the sofa! Feckwits the pair of them!
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"The most blatant offender when it comes to kicking out after the tackle is that petulant little chap Sam Tomkins, so there was a smile on my face when he was well and truly scragged by Jamie at the end, and an even bigger one with the resultant try.
The early doors smack around the head was probably deserved as well!
One of the highlights of the day for me was the look on the faces of Noble and that annoying Welsh muppet Davies. The pair of them couldn't tip their Granny off the sofa! Feckwits the pair of them!
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There is kicking out and kicking out. What Senior did today does not happen every week by Tomkins or anyone, if it did we would not be talking about it.
Senior put his feet in a dangerous position, the call was right and it was dealt with in the right manor.
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| thought leeds were fortunate today with the referee. joel tomkins gets eight stitches, a penalty, peacock takes sam tomkins head off and has a second swing with his right arm, penalty, farrell charges a kick and whilst in mid air hits mcguire sinbin. leeds got the rub of the green off the ref. hope you lift the trophy but wigan deserved it today and were the better team, totally dominent in the second half.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"thought leeds were fortunate today with the referee. joel tomkins gets eight stitches, a penalty, peacock takes sam tomkins head off and has a second swing with his right arm, penalty, farrell charges a kick and whilst in mid air hits mcguire sinbin. leeds got the rub of the green off the ref. hope you lift the trophy but wigan deserved it today and were the better team, totally dominent in the second half.'"
Wigan weren't totally dominent in the 2nd half. 39 minutes maybe, but not the minute that counted
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