Had an interesting chat with an old Aussie guy in my hotel bar last week and he talked about Les Boyd. He was a Queenslander so may have been slightly biased, but he hated the guy. Thought he was (and I use his own definition) house on the pitch and a s1hihouse off the pitch. Apparantly a guy who could be as dirty and unpleasant in a bar as he was palying RL. I personaly remeber one epic clash between Boyd and Kurt Sorenson when they were at Warrington and Widnes. A telented player with a horrible temprement who had an innability to draw any line in his behaviour.

I have said this before on some similar thread years ago, but if I was going to pick a guy as the hardest player I'd seen it would have to be the man in your avatar. To know you are going to get smacked in the face off the ball after you pass and yet still run with your head up, still concentrate completely on the pass, and still delay the pass to perfection? How many "hard" men were sent off for stiff arming him late when he wasn't looking over his career (I remember one year they intorduced the sin bin it was around 14 yellow and one red card and one broken jaw)?

My List

Kevin Dick ???

Knocker Norton ???

Bill Ramsey ???

Shoey ???

Syd Hynes ???

Wally Lewis ???

Crusher Cleal ???

Rod Reddy ???

Mark Geyer was a bit of a nutter too

No he didn't. He hit three of our lads, but none of them went down, despite what Bulls rose tinted memories may think.

They were good punches, true, but it's been embellished so much by time.

And Tallis thought he was hard, but still went crying to the RFL about being picked on by Morley following a GB/Aus test.

In my usual pedantic mode I'd always thought he was known as the "Wall with Eyes."
I once got in a lift with him & he was massive & completely square.
Dave Gillespie was known as Cement I believe.
For dirtyness how about Chris "Clotheshanger" Burton?
Hard, try Alan Prescott who played a almost a full test against the Aussies with a broken arm.

Glenn Lazurus was 'the brick with eyes'

His nephew (Blake) made his NRL debut last week for Wests Tigers. He was mostly harmless.

I was impressed by Edwards playing out a cup final with a broken eye socket & jaw - received courtesy of a malicious Des Drummond elbow IIRC

I stand corrected, it must have been a brick wall.

A lot of the Leeds lads who played with Shoey reckon he was a real tough Lad.
I liked Kev Dicks attitude, if he wasn't as good as them just stop them playing by any means, TVOC might help but i'm sure Leeds won at the Boulevard when Sterling played, or rather did'nt play after Dicky stood on his hand at the first scrum.
With all the Camera angles now he'd be a permanent fixture at redhall.

Seen Les Boyd mentioned a couple of times, I watched Halifax v. Wire when he played, after a mass brawl Roy Dicko just set off for the changing rooms unstrapping his hands, Boyd ranted and raved until he saw the red card the ran past Roy stopping for a chelp. I was there with Roys mate, so we asked what was said, Boyd offerd Roy a private punch up in the changing room, Roy just laughed at him & accepted. Sense prevailed and they are good pals now.
Roy was no shrinking violet though, Think he made his Debut at 17 or 18 Proping against Jim Mills.

A story that features in his rather excellent sportsmans dinner routine...

Indeed. He's the best after dinner speaker I've heard.

He used to do a bit of work for me, He'd practice his rountine on a Friday aft if he was doing a dinner that weekend, no work got done but what a laugh.

just my two penneth, paul dixon, not real big but would try and run through a brick wall if it was in his way, remember him playin against sorensen and picking him out every time he had the ball.

Rather than start a totally opposite thread...
If i was to be attacked by two 6'4" blokes who train 5 days a week please let it be burgess & kirke, what a waste of size, totally out of their depth tonight.

add ambler to that a waste of a shirt, I think he was on 20 minutes, ran it in twice and if you notice he defends directly behind the ruck all the time....really dont know how he gets in the side

Alan Prescott

Brian Mctigue

Good shout.

I remember him playing against Widnes and hitting one of the Hulme brothers. When the other ran in, he decked him as well.

He played for GB v Australia at Old Trafford in '86 on Saturday - probably played 80 minutes - then turned out for Leeds on the Sunday. Scored 3 tries if memory serves.

On being selected to tour with GB, a team mate asked him what he would tell the wife. He apparently replied 'What's it to do with her?'

True hard man.

That's David on the left.

Kelvin Skerrett

He made my one of my bottom teeth come through my bottom lip with a high tackle, don't know how when I'm 6'3.

Dirty buggar