Very very easy mate

1. Cat walk strut off!

2. How well can a person vogue!

3. blue steel!

3. And the all important dance off!

I don't want to sound like sour grapes, or desperate or anything.

But surely, if they have been sripped of the titles, their minor premierships, and this seasons points, surely they should be stripped of the WCC also?

Leeds should be quick on getting this message across.

to be honest mate nobody is gonna spring to melbournes defence on this one. I think it's a given, but agree they should be stripped of the title! they are the best team in the world at cheating though!

It doesn't mention anything about their status as world champions, however as they've been stripped of the NRL title which enabled them to play in the world club challenge in the first place, one would imagine that the stripping of the WCC title will follow suit automatically. I'm also assuming that as 2007 and 2009 are to remain blank in the NRL record books with effectively no winners, then the same will apply to the 2010 WCC? Will be interesting to see if they confirm this or not in the days to come though.

I wonder how many bonfires there will be at sl and nrl clubs today? Hahaha

From the articles I've read it seems they confessed rather than being caught? Or have I read that wrong?

That's how it should be - stripped of the titles but these should not then be awarded to the losers/runners up.

Wrong mate! They were caught then totally fessed up handing over the second set of books and contracts kept at the CE's house. the first files about other payments were found in a room at the club offices.

Not sure, it seems that the claim is many of the board didn't know this was going on and they have called in the police to investigate!!!

I am chuckling to myself reading this thread. Cant believe that some Leeds fans have suggested that Bradford, Saints and Wigan should have been dealt with more severely, and Warrington should have Squeaky bums when the storm issue has some alarming parralells for all those living East of Pudsey and West of Garforth!

a successful club, winning multiple premierships and minor premierships, a team stacked full of internationals and homegrown future internationals ( and eventual internationals), seemingly staying within the cap and pontificating about how they successfully stay within the rules, only to be found out for massive breaches in the long term, and a removal of titles!

I can almost see the smoke from the bonfire in the southstand carpark as the second set of books is burned!

You missed Saints mate - Whoops, no you didn't!

Of course winning the GF helps the salary cap no end and having one the last three then Leeds have been able to give the lads quite nice year end bonuses... don't need a second set of books if you can give them a nice legal year end bonus!

Homegrown future internationals, on low contracts until they eventually run out, then some have to be moved on, ie: calderwood, walker, smith, scruton etc when they are established first teamers, then come the next batch.
That apart GH & Caddick love the salary cap, if anyones under it its them 2.

Even if the cap is live people can still cheat. The live cap just stops deals being done that would otherwise only be discovered when the accounts were submitted months/years later

Quote ="isaac1"I am chuckling to myself reading this thread. Cant believe that some Leeds fans have suggested that Bradford, Saints and Wigan should have been dealt with more severely, and Warrington should have Squeaky bums when the storm issue has some alarming parralells for all those living East of Pudsey and West of Garforth! a successful club, winning multiple premierships and minor premierships, a team stacked full of internationals and homegrown future internationals ( and eventual internationals), seemingly staying within the cap and pontificating about how they successfully stay within the rules, only to be found out for massive breaches in the long term, and a removal of titles! I can almost see the smoke from the bonfire in the southstand carpark as the second set of books is burned!'" I think GH's comments tell you all you need to know about Leeds and the cap! We don't brake it which makes our success all the more special. www.therhinos.co.uk/news/10794.php? now jog along bullscum

Quote ="isaac1"I am chuckling to myself reading this thread. Cant believe that some Leeds fans have suggested that Bradford, Saints and Wigan should have been dealt with more severely, and Warrington should have Squeaky bums when the storm issue has some alarming parralells for all those living East of Pudsey and West of Garforth! a successful club, winning multiple premierships and minor premierships, a team stacked full of internationals and homegrown future internationals ( and eventual internationals), seemingly staying within the cap and pontificating about how they successfully stay within the rules, only to be found out for massive breaches in the long term, and a removal of titles! I can almost see the smoke from the bonfire in the southstand carpark as the second set of books is burned!'" I think GH's comments tell you all you need to know about Leeds and the cap! We don't brake it which makes our success all the more special. www.therhinos.co.uk/news/10794.php? now jog along bullscum

Incredible, unbelievable. Never seen anything like it.

bulldogs in 03?

Strange that more than a few are defending Melbourne on the Wigan board!! who'd of thunk it ey!

What happens to/with some of their super star players moving forward??

Presumably some are either going to have to accept taking home much less pay or will have to be shipped out if the club cannot keep them within the salary cap rules?

Quote ="Gotcha"I don't want to sound like sour grapes, or desperate or anything. But surely, if they have been sripped of the titles, their minor premierships, and this seasons points, surely they should be stripped of the WCC also? Leeds should be quick on getting this message across.'" GH has already commented on it. Well no direct quote, but i agree that we shouldn't claim the WCC. We lost on the day and thats it done for me. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 636565.stm *Sourgrapes mode* I still don't feel it was Melbourne that cheated us out of the WCC, but a certain person with a whistle.

Quote ="Gotcha"I don't want to sound like sour grapes, or desperate or anything. But surely, if they have been sripped of the titles, their minor premierships, and this seasons points, surely they should be stripped of the WCC also? Leeds should be quick on getting this message across.'" GH has already commented on it. Well no direct quote, but i agree that we shouldn't claim the WCC. We lost on the day and thats it done for me. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 636565.stm *Sourgrapes mode* I still don't feel it was Melbourne that cheated us out of the WCC, but a certain person with a whistle.

if leeds get the 50,000 back from the wcc and give the money to the players,as they were going to do.wont that take us over the cap?

I think the players should also be punished as they have accepted off the books payments, unless they expect people to believe that they thought getting a pay cheque and a brown envelope was just normal.

Bonuses not part of the cap.

Really?

I bet a lot of 'bonuses' get put through.

The general gist on here more than suggests there are ample ways to put things through.

Makes you wonder how daft some clubs are to get pulled up for it.

No, any prize money does not count on the cap. It would defeat the point of having prize money if you you could not give some or all of it to the players. The club can choose to do whatever it likes with prize money under the cap rules, so it can give every penny of it to it's players if it wants. It suspected that the majority of the prize money from our last 3 grand finals went into giving players bonuses payments because the club can afford to do so.