Strange you should mention him, he's in the UK soon, and has played RU before. Fights MMA now.

Why not Glen Ross?

He wouldnt count on the quota because hes British



He may need to bulk up abit though

Strange how so few people picked up on this embarrassing comment , classless indeed .

BM made a comment in the programme about trying to recruit players to cover our injury situation but it was not easy with the Salary cap. Even if Lee Smith is available and willing to return he would not be a cheap option if we are talking about a season long loan.

I was going to give coach McClennan the benefit of the doubt (in that he was referring to Leeds having a poor run of form and he hoped others would suffer similar dip in form at some point over the course of the season) but he does specifically refer to Leeds' injury woes.

I thought you could exclude long term injured players from the SC for exactly this reason?

I hear its a loan move but can be permenant at the end of the season, dependent on whether Scott Donald gets a new deal or not.

I am not sure of the rules regarding injured players but BM wrote in the programme
"Whilst we are exploring all avenues to get us through this period of injuries, fans must also remember that this has to be done within the confines of the cap"
This was written after Watkins' season ending injury so gives the impression that regardless of our long term injuries we don't have much room to manouvre.
May also be a factor in the decision not to recall BJB.

That could well be true as Jones-Bishop is presumably outside Leeds' 1-25 1st grade squad at the start of the 2010 season.

That being the case I just wish coach McClennan could have levelled with the supporters last week rather than using the 'Jones-Bishop is primarily a full-back' line.

Scotty (imo) will want to return to OZ next season

Why will Scott Donald want to return to Oz? Even if not with Leeds, he'll get a much bigger pay packet in SL than he'd be offered in the NRL.

To retire gracefully?

He'll be 31 before next season starts, he has a young family, he's in re-hab now after a shoulder reconstruction, he's probably achieved as much out of the game as he's likely to. Perhaps he'd count on the overseas trained quota (I'm not sure how that works) if he left Leeds but stayed in SL, which may make finding another club over here more difficult as the quota (supposedly) reduces to 5 in 2011.

Not many players retire gracefully.

Jon Wells did last night on Sky Sports and good luck to him in this his testimonial season (the first Broncos player to have been awarded one) and for the future beyond that.

He first played against Leeds in 1998 but I have a feeling he may be one of the players that has played in every year of Super League, not sure though. He's also a member of the 10 tries minimum V Leeds club.

If I recall correctly he qualified as either an accountant or a lawyer in his Castleford days so that may cushion the blow of giving the game away to injury and old age at 31.

The quick answer is no! Sorry!

Well the £3m comment clearly shows, as another poster pointed out, he is talking out of his bottom!

Also, in respect of signing anyone 'back' that is clearly bottom talk again, how can RFL/SL restrict any players freedom of trade by contravening contract law? As long as both teams agree terms for player and of course they can make room for him in the cap then he can come back.

1. Correct
2. Qualified in Leeds at the same time as Oliver Marns, once of Halifax I believe.
He's always comes across as a genuine guy whenever I've heard him. Good luck to him in his new career whatever that may be.

I think that a player stays exempt even if he moves clubs, which is why the likes of Solomona, Gene and Tadulala were able to be signed by their respective clubs

Yes, length and terms of residency is the deciding factor.

no you can exclude them from the 25 man first team squad by de-registering, but thats all afaik

Well you can, but don't confuse the first team squad rules with the Salary Cap rules, which are different, even though the Salary Cap rules also use the salaries of the top paid 25 players... hence the confusion!

They can de-register 'them' from the first team squad and that tends to happen automatically if long-term injured but if you carry on paying them, that money counts on the cap, albeit it might reduce slightly because the 'player' will no longer (depending on his contract) be getting playing and win-bonuses. If the reduction in salary is such that it takes a player outside of the top 25 player earners at the club then they might come out of the £1.6m cap value but they would then fall under the £50k second team cap burden.

So, sorry mate, I am correct and you can't get them off the cap as such.

Sorry Hutchie,

realised that you were agreeing with what I said. Ignore post above!

Quote ="leicester_rhino"I think that a player stays exempt even if he moves clubs, which is why the likes of Solomona, Gene and Tadulala were able to be signed by their respective clubs'" The limit, the exclusions, who does and doesn't count is surely worthy of an investigation by Inflatable_Armadillo. I await his due diligence with eager anticipation. That's the only way us mere supporters will be able to get our heads around how it all works. John Kear, for example, talks of the limit being 5 in 2010 in this article www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 23923.html when the limit on overseas trained is 6 according to the SL website. And here it claims Ben Jeffries is on the quota, yet he first played against Leeds in 2003 and has played against Leeds in every season since. So he's been contracted over here for 8 continuous seasons. If he's still on quota so would Scott Donald, wouldn't he? All very confusing. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... field.html

Quote ="leicester_rhino"I think that a player stays exempt even if he moves clubs, which is why the likes of Solomona, Gene and Tadulala were able to be signed by their respective clubs'" The limit, the exclusions, who does and doesn't count is surely worthy of an investigation by Inflatable_Armadillo. I await his due diligence with eager anticipation. That's the only way us mere supporters will be able to get our heads around how it all works. John Kear, for example, talks of the limit being 5 in 2010 in this article www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 23923.html when the limit on overseas trained is 6 according to the SL website. And here it claims Ben Jeffries is on the quota, yet he first played against Leeds in 2003 and has played against Leeds in every season since. So he's been contracted over here for 8 continuous seasons. If he's still on quota so would Scott Donald, wouldn't he? All very confusing. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... field.html

I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has been posted previously but the rules are covered in Part 5 section E1 here.

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It isn't helped by virtue of the fact that the RFLs operational rules on it's own web site appear to be out dated. At C1:4 it talks about "OVERSEAS PLAYERS" and how they're defined but I believe that is now obselete thanks to the new Club tranined, Federation trained and non Federation trained.

There was a very clear article in a pre season of RLWorld that I referred to on here but I am still searching for the definirtive source authority.

This part of the Super league web site helps but, of course, only gives half the picture as it doesn't explain about exemptions and how players qualify for them.

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