Oh dear. You fail even more than the original person who failed.

Indeed, that is what I pointed out, and I would be surprised if he is unaware of the exact terms of the loan agreement - but it wouldn't be too startling for him to be incorrect. (Our poster insinuted his source was a fairly reliable one at the Leeds club, and he's not the type to make this sort of thing up).

You tried to get bites by saying he wasn't good enough but unfortunately your true feelings were uncovered elsewhere and you were OWNED as per usual.

Unsurprising that you support Quins, being a Quim and all that.

Yup, you've rumbled me.





Oh please don't take him, BJB is the best player we've EVER had, he'll be playing for England by the end of the season! I want him to stay at Harlequins FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that better for you?

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Disregarding the dense poster who obviously can't tell his @rse from his mouth, BJB has been superb all season bar 1 game and will fit in perfectly at Leeds. Would be sad to see him go but surprised it hasn't happened sooner. From what I have seen of Webb lately, which albeit isn't a huge amount, I would prefer BJB in my team. A class act when interviewed in the bar at the beginning of the season too.

If the champion club's head coach is unaware of the exact terms of a loan agreement then that should raise some pretty serious questions. Let's not forget that on Boxing Day 2009 he said in a directly attributable quote, "Ben Jones-Bishop will hopefully force his way into the first team at Harlequins and we're looking for Dane Manning to do likewise at Featherstone. =#FF0000But it's nice to know we've got them there and we're able to recall them if we like."

I look forward to Leeds clarifying the position in the near future, not least to prevent coach McClennan from issueing anymore false statements to the media, if that is indeed what has happened here.

Yeah I saw that too and thought the same. Do you not think he would have been recalled already though, if the option was there?

I'd have to agree that due to our current injury crisis at the club that it would be in the best interests of the Rhinos to re-call BJB from his loan spell at the Quins........provided that he will definately get the desired game time whilst he's back at the club

Looking at the next 2 to 3 months, it would suggest that quite a bit of game time will be available on the wing covering both Donald and Watkin's absences

If BJB does return to the club, then i would also like the club to keep BJB at the club until the end of the season and not loan him out again, this will ensure that we don't suffer a repeat of the 2008 scenario when Webb had to pull out of the GF squad at the last minute, because we don't have the players to cover this vital spot as well as Smithy did back then without him!

BJB is now a very valuable player in our squad

Have to agree. At least both clubs can get on with their seasons then. This will mess us up a bit but what can we do? Not a lot

Not neccesarily before last weekend no.

However now with Watkins gone for the season (adding to the mid term unavailability of Donald, Ablett and Eastwood) and the current difficulties getting Delaney, Webb and Hall anywhere close to 100%, I think the outside back options are looking much reduced all of a sudden.

I'd expect Jones-Bishop to be well in front of Tom Bush for instance who has already been given his debut this season while only a part-time player, full-time plumber. Any electricians fancy a game out there?

Time will tell.

The idea was for him to get as many games as possible as 1st choice FB in SL so although we had lost Donald for 3 mths there was still sufficiant cover in the coachs opinion rather than recall him for the odd game on the wing.
Now with both Watkins and Donald out and doubts over Webb,Delaney and Hall it's a case of having no choice but to recall him.

Yes, he is not on Leeds' cap because he has not played in SL for Leeds this year, however, salary cap liability for the top 25 players is quite complex. BJB could come back as a second tier player in terms of his salary cap liability, but I would think Kallum's injury will mean his salary liability will reduce because he will no longer be receiving playing and win bonuses, so that might mean that BJB's cap liability could replace Kallum's and Kallum could take up space on the second tier cap limit and not the first tier!

I hope that makes some sort of sense, but suggest you read the operational rules if you want to know more about how it works in detail.

From YEP online

With winger Ryan Hall also having taken a knock to a leg against Huddersfield, recalling Ben Jones-Bishop from his loan spell at Harlequins is a possibility.

"We will consider all our options," McClennan said. "But Ben Jones-Bishop is primarily a full-back."

[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsrhinosnews/Leeds-Rhinos-Injuries-are-part.6157340.jp[/url

He said it again...?

So sounds like we'll be more likely to bring in a winger on loan for a spell then than recall BJB?

But whom? Anyone out of favour who is a winger that would make a better option than BJB?

But would BJB be better playing on the wing or Fullback?

If the club decide fullback then you look at whom. I would suggest possibly Calvert considering our relationship with Whitehaven. Or is Penney still contract to Warrington for possible loan?

Too bad that Wigan have loaned Ainscough out already otherwise I would have took him on loan.

BJB has started 3 games for leeds under Bluey, and 2 have been on the wing.

I think he'd make a decent enough fist of the wing for a few months.

basically its about balancing the needs of the club and the player

Personally, I'd rather see either Bush or Chisholm get a go first before we start looking at loans of players who aren't up to SL standard anyway.

Injuries provide young players with opportunities, it's up to them to grasp them with both hands.

I'll laugh my bollox off if we recall him and leave Quins without a decent full back.

Agreed, its how the likes of McGuire, Burrow and Diskin got their chance

they'd have a matching set

They'd just play Chris Melling back in his natural position instead, so even if Leeds do recall Jones-Bishop they've got a decent replacement.

Why did they need BJB in the first place? Dont rate Melling?