We are starting to struggle for quality injury cover and I would not be surprised to see BJB recalled now Watkins is long term injured with Scott with still many weeks to go and Webb/Hall carrying knocks!

if thats the backline that will be fit for friday then surelt BJB should stay at Harlequins

Forgive me if im wrong, didnt Watkins have a bit of discomfort with his leg 5 mins before he went down in pain???

My memory tells me Watkins was hobbling about a little then made a carry, which then resulted in him going down in pain and by the looks of it making the injury a hell of a lot worse!

Did they not learn this from Kevin Sinfields dead leg? Sinfield was able to jog with a limp, but they left him out on the field - to the extend to could hardly walk off the field. It was also a carbon copy of Clinton Toopi's injury - which was his last performance for Leeds. Leeds seem to have a mentality of 'see if he will run it off'. Well they medical staff have screwed up big time.

Who else will cover winger, although Bush did alright against quins, he's not good enough to play for the next couple of months.

Also very similar although not resulting in same, that Sinfield had in the WCC. Following on from another similar occurance in the Cas game with Delaney.

We do seem to like gambling by trying to get players to run it off.

Im sure thats down to the individual player than a club policy though.

Yeah remembered then edited my post.

You see it every week on Sky, as soon as a player gets injured he gets withdrawn and assessed from the touchline or in changing room. Whereas with Leeds he has to be practically unconscious or crying in pain to warrant a sub to be used.

Most players and clubs are the same.

I don't think it's really a critisism that can only be levelled against Leeds or it's players.

It did remind me of the Toopi one on the same ground though.



I don't think you do. Coaches have to be a bit more circumspect with their use of substitutes than that.

That might well be the case tvoc, but should the club learn from the lessons of this season? or continue to operate the same?

I would hope lessons are learned and players health is not compromised if any risk.

Life's a risk. Playing rugby league much more so.

When Burrow (for example)gets knocked unconscious and is left out there to get on with it I'll accept the club's negligence towards the welfare of the players but until then.

Realised I am a bit late! All the best to the lad! it took disco from his injury to the back end of 07 to look anything other than a passenger.

I think it depends on the injury and circumstances but generally players play with a lot of niggling injuries or ones that they run off. If you substituted everyone who got a knock then you would be unable to make tactical substitutions. I don't think Leeds have done anything wrong, they have just been rather unlucky.

I once played on 3 broken legs.

very funny.

Didddle-iddle-iddle-um.

What's funny?

Coaches have a total of twelve replacements. If they used one everytime the trainer enters the field to tend to a player's injury (as you appear to be suggesting) then they'd be lucky if they had any left for the second half.

I don't think that was suggested tvoc. But someone hobbling around limping in obvious pain, should take a little more consideration.

How would you interpret



=#FF0000I dont think this happens and =#400000I don't think this happens either.

Ah tvoc, on the Red text - well thats your opinion but I think other teams seem to a be more cautious than what Leeds are when it comes to an injury imo.

On the brown text I was been a little sarky dont you think? But Sinfield, Delaney and Watkins had to be unable to run to be sub'd on their injuries. They were left to run the injuries off and made them worse, all 3 could hardly walk off the pitch.

You're seriously suggesting Leeds are risking player's health?



I'm just wondering what makes you think you can assess a player's injury (or extent thereof) better than the professional medical staff employed by the club and dealing with the on field incidents?

It's pretty straight forward and all clubs and players initially try to "run off" a knock before coming off.
With Watkins it wasn't his knee at first he was pointing to his ankle and was happy to try and run it off and was unfortunate to end up getting the knee injury.
The case with Sinfield is also straight forward he got the initial bang on the thigh and he himself wasved the doc away after the 1st visit sods law shows he got a heavy kick in exactly the same spot.
i think we are just getting "our turn" in the long term injuries at the moment and don't think that any could of been prevented by the staff.

Seen as you just said "Lifes a risk, rugby league even more so" then yeah



Are you seriously saying leaving Sinfield and Watkins out on the field when they are in visible discomfort is not a risk?

Of course it's a risk and it's a risk they are willing to take.

I'm glad you have confidence in the Leeds medical staff as unlike you they have to deal with situations without the benefit of hindsight.

See above from Rhinoms.

If they took players off after every knock, you'd use your 12 interchanges before half time

Don't recall Jones-Bishop please