Because when we play Saints it's a 50-50 game as the recent results between us show, so for us to win all the 3 most important ones would be a shock IMO

Saints and Leeds are the best 2 teams so it should be a good hard match.

IMO it's 50-50. The ain't been much in the games we have played this year and it will be same on Saturday.

Is Webb fit to play? I hope he plays as no player should miss 2 grand finals and the world cup because of injury.

He'll have an injection.

Good post

Barry

the saying that "the more wins you get means that you are closer to a loss" really is apparent to the rhinos on saturday,we are either going to be the first team to win 3 in a row gf's,or the saints will be due their win after their previous 2 losses to the rhinos
i wouldn't be surprised if the saints won on saturday as the sides are so equally balanced
i hope that the best side wins,but with no contenscious decisions deciding the final outcome
still fancy the rhinos to just nick it though

by the way does anyone know who will be doing the pre match entertainment?
scouting for girls and katherine jenkins will take some beating

The way Buderus was limping on friday there is no way he will be playing, not that he should either with Diskins form since he got injured.

There is no way on this planet the Buderus will be named in the 17. Whoever thought that he might was way off the mark.

Pretty much agree with that!

Webb(ive heard its his back again, but It looked like it was his hand when he came on to clap the fans) bailey(looked like it was his hip) and Ali may miss out! Ali has a virus, if he gets over it I would think he defo plays

so our bench maybe something like burgess, worrell, pitts and watkins

It's his collar bone mate.

Which is good from my point of view as we dont want to go there as favourites now do we.....

Leeds' wins in the last 2 years have no bearing on the outcome, either way. Nor do results over last 10 games.

All that matters is who turns up, and plays best.

If both teams play to 100%, it could go either way.

I quite agree - but I am a supersticious old fart and it wont stop me worrying about the little things.. Like the rule of three!

Wombats and All Angels

Is that one group or two.

I'm so old.

Two.

Wombats - indie band

All Angels - classical 'cross over' band (as described by the RFL in their email! They supported Katherine Jenkins on her recent UK tour)

Madness, Scouting for girls now this. Is it a step up or step down? I'm stopping going to these bashes the entertainment aint what it used to be.

Saints will be pumped for this one, that's for sure.

In 2007 we wanted it more, in 2008 they got complacent after the first try but this season they are underdogs, long will want to go out with a bang and they'll be extra eager to avenge the last 2 years.

Leeds are favourites and going for a 3rd title on the bounce.

I think saints will be playing on more emotion than leeds, they're going to give it everything but that may also mean rash decisions and silly errors. They're going to really muscle up in the forwards though, i expoect them to give our pack a bashing.

The last 2 seasons saints have tryed to play too expansive. They aren't like that under potter though and i think his style will serve them better.

Heart says leeds, but head says 3 times on the trot is too good to be true, so saints.

It is a very close call but I do think we have the beating of them but do worry about being favourites!

The one thing that no one has mentioned yet is goal kicking and it is clear that Saints are really struggling with the boot from the tee. Long is just not up to the job and Eastmond is not as good as he thinks he is and I think he will struggle even more under pressure! Put that against Sinfield with very able back-up from Smith and Burrow if required and it could come down to the two-point opportunities that are successful or indeed not!

If Webb, Ali and Bailey aren't playing then our bench would look quite poor...

3. Smith
2. Donald
23. Watkins
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Burrow
8. Leuluai
14. Diskin
10. Peacock
11. JJB
18. Ablett
13. Sinfield

17. Kirke
19. Burgess
21. Worrall
25. Pitts

Quote ="efcrhino"If Webb, Ali and Bailey aren't playing then our bench would look quite poor... 3. Smith 2. Donald 23. Watkins 4. Senior 5. Hall 6. McGuire 7. Burrow 8. Leuluai 14. Diskin 10. Peacock 11. JJB 18. Ablett 13. Sinfield 17. Kirke 19. Burgess 21. Worrall 25. Pitts'" Ali will be playing, he was only away with the flu. www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15576 Quote "St Helens captain Keiron Cunningham is prepared to defy medical advice if necessary to lead his side against defending champions Leeds Rhinos in the engage Super League Grand Final. The veteran hooker played in Saints’ 14-10 semi-final win over Wigan Warriors with pain-killing injections to combat a hairline fracture in his hand and was today undergoing scans after experiencing further discomfort. However, St Helens coach Mick Potter says Cunningham is a definite starter on Saturday - and with centre Matt Gidley (groin) and prop Tony Puletua (shoulder) also set to defy injury, he will take his place in a full-strength side."'" This is the kinda style we went into the Challenge Cup Final 2005, when Senior was injured but yet still played. I guess the players from Leeds will know where to go for on them and there weak spots.

Quote ="efcrhino"If Webb, Ali and Bailey aren't playing then our bench would look quite poor... 3. Smith 2. Donald 23. Watkins 4. Senior 5. Hall 6. McGuire 7. Burrow 8. Leuluai 14. Diskin 10. Peacock 11. JJB 18. Ablett 13. Sinfield 17. Kirke 19. Burgess 21. Worrall 25. Pitts'" Ali will be playing, he was only away with the flu. www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15576 Quote "St Helens captain Keiron Cunningham is prepared to defy medical advice if necessary to lead his side against defending champions Leeds Rhinos in the engage Super League Grand Final. The veteran hooker played in Saints’ 14-10 semi-final win over Wigan Warriors with pain-killing injections to combat a hairline fracture in his hand and was today undergoing scans after experiencing further discomfort. However, St Helens coach Mick Potter says Cunningham is a definite starter on Saturday - and with centre Matt Gidley (groin) and prop Tony Puletua (shoulder) also set to defy injury, he will take his place in a full-strength side."'" This is the kinda style we went into the Challenge Cup Final 2005, when Senior was injured but yet still played. I guess the players from Leeds will know where to go for on them and there weak spots.

same 19 as last week acording to radio Leeds

That could still mean Worrall for Bailey and Watkins for Webb.

So then what's everyones score predictions????
I reckon Rhinos 19-10 saints.

Saints 18 Leeds 14