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| Quote ="rochdalepontypoolsaint"Never in my life have I gone trolling but imo James Graham is more than correct to not shake the hands of you dirty houses!
It was more than apparent that no one in Leeds gave a love if they got a ban cos the league is won with the two points.
Chicken wing, grapple tackles , punching and hair pulling ffs!!!
There was an odd saints tackle that we could be critical of but Leeds's general conduct across the park was a loving disgrace.
If the RFL weren't such a bunch of weak willed pricks, the dirty play would soon stop.'"
You mad?
A bit irate?
I think he's mad guys.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Exactly even Senior and wilkin shook hands at the end. Like every player should.'"
wilkin didnt exactly shake hands was more like senior holding hands with him and not letting go
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| Quote ="EVERTON1"the problem he had was how leeds seem to get away with alot of foul play and it not get punished'"
They're the most penalised team in the competition you fool!
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| Quote ="rochdalepontypoolsaint"Never in my life have I gone trolling but imo James Graham is more than correct to not shake the hands of you dirty houses!
It was more than apparent that no one in Leeds gave a love if they got a ban cos the league is won with the two points.
Chicken wing, grapple tackles , punching and hair pulling ffs!!!
There was an odd saints tackle that we could be critical of but Leeds's general conduct across the park was a loving disgrace.
If the RFL weren't such a bunch of weak willed pricks, the dirty play would soon stop.'"
Go sit in the corner with your magazines old lady
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| Quote ="rochdalepontypoolsaint"hair pulling ffs!!! '"
A lot of players grab for the shirt and the collar, Sean Long's hair goes below that. Grab one you get the other. Is that the defenders fault because Sean Long has hair like a rasta?
There was NO direct grab for the hair, the Leeds player (Lauititi? not sure?) grabbed for the shirt and was UNLUCKY to get some hair. There was nothing in it at all.
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| Quote ="J.I.M"You mad?
A bit irate?
I think he's mad guys.'"
I actually enjoy games like that but to fair, I've walked off rugby pitches without shaking hands if I think players have tried to injure me.
Worse example of a chicken wing I've seen all year.
Lee Smith will be a loss to RL, ignore the Gilly nonsense, he's a class act. And Senior's pop I don't have too much of a problem with. A punch is a punch, meh. But the chicken wing just grates with me.
Thought Webb was quite quiet - not really hitting the heights this year?
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| If Wilkin and Senior shook hands within minutes of all the Argy-Bargy, then honestly, the ginger nut has no excuse.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Worse example of a chicken wing I've seen all year.'"
not to defend JJB, as it doesnt look great on tele, but do you and others believe defenders (not just JJB) purposefully get into a chicken wing position or is it just that SOMETIMES it ends up that way due to the angle of collision, the way that the attacker falls and the fact that the defenders are trying to turn the man in the tackle.....
Just wondered what peoples thoughts are. I wouldnt like to think that defenders purposefully go out to chicken wing the oppositon.....
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| Quote ="RossRhino"not to defend JJB, as it doesnt look great on tele, but do you and others believe defenders (not just JJB) purposefully get into a chicken wing position or is it just that SOMETIMES it ends up that way due to the angle of collision, the way that the attacker falls and the fact that the defenders are trying to turn the man in the tackle......'"
I have no doubt whatsoever JJB knew what he was doing - he was forcing his arm back. If you look at it rationally, I think you'd agree.
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| And following the Sky Commentary...
"30 seconds later, he throws an inch perfect long pass".
<sarcasm>Yes, he really was badly injured and hurt by that Chicken Wing</sarcasm>
Yes it probably hurt, but forget Man of Steel, he's in the pot for a Bafta this year instead.
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| Quote ="Elisedriver"And following the Sky Commentary...
"30 seconds later, he throws an inch perfect long pass".'"
That's OK then
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I have no doubt whatsoever JJB knew what he was doing - he was forcing his arm back. If you look at it rationally, I think you'd agree.'"
so its not at all possible that whilst he was trying to roll Graham onto his back whilst clamping the ball, and Graham was trying to roll onto his front to get a quick PTB that it turned into a chicken wing completely inadvertantely?
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| Quote ="RossRhino"not to defend JJB, as it doesnt look great on tele, but do you and others believe defenders (not just JJB) purposefully get into a chicken wing position or is it just that SOMETIMES it ends up that way due to the angle of collision, the way that the attacker falls and the fact that the defenders are trying to turn the man in the tackle.....
Just wondered what peoples thoughts are. I wouldnt like to think that defenders purposefully go out to chicken wing the oppositon.....'"
What?
Don't be ridiculous.
It was planned to every last detail by JJb for the last few months.
He had schematics drawn up at his house with a leading scientist calculating precise angles of collision, velocity and timing.
It's been planned for months.
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| Sorry, but I've had the same treatment. If it was bad as he made out, there is no way on earth that he would be capable of using his arm to that degree.
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| Quote ="RossRhino"so its not at all possible that whilst he was trying to roll Graham onto his back whilst clamping the ball, and Graham was trying to roll onto his front to get a quick PTB that it turned into a chicken wing completely inadvertantely?'"
Of course it's possible, but I don't think even you believe that's what happened.
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| Quote ="J.I.M"What?
Don't be ridiculous.
It was planned to every last detail by JJb for the last few months.
He had schematics drawn up at his house with a leading scientist calculating precise angles of collision, velocity and timing.
It's been planned for months.'"
I love J.I.M world, everything is so black and white
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| Quote ="rochdalepontypoolsaint"There was an odd saints tackle that we could be critical of but Leeds's general conduct across the park was a loving disgrace. '"
Penalty count was 11 - 7 in Leeds' favour tonight.
I agree St Helens were more indisciplined than Leeds on the night and it's about time the RFL sorted them out.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Of course it's possible, but I don't think even you believe that's what happened.'"
I dont believe any team would purposfully go out with it in mind to chicken wing an opposition player.
From that, I dont believe JJB purposfully chicken winged Graham, it was, in my opinion, an unlucky set of circumstances.
I've already said it didn't look good on tele but that doesnt mean it was done on purpose.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Penalty count was 11 - 7 in Leeds' favour tonight.
I agree St Helens were more indisciplined than Leeds on the night and it's about time the RFL sorted them out.'"
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| Quote ="RossRhino"I dont believe any team would purposfully go out with it in mind to chicken wing an opposition player.
From that, I dont believe JJB purposfully chicken winged Graham, it was, in my opinion, an unlucky set of circumstances.
I've already said it didn't look good on tele but that doesnt mean it was done on purpose.'"
They could put that clip on the "100 great chicken wings" dvd and it would be in places 1-100.
Top game though, loved it
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| Quote ="J.I.M"You mad?
A bit irate?
I think he's mad guys.'"
I am! Although another thread is discussing this. (In the 'Is this costly' thread)
Other leeds fans are commenting that the same strategy worked in previous years. It was Bailey on another match.
Yes I am angry.........Although I'm not a natural brainless troller. I'm just fed up of going down to a game levelled by illegal play and allowed to get away with it.
Game after game after game
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| Quote ="tvoc"Penalty count was 11 - 7 in Leeds' favour tonight.
I agree St Helens were more indisciplined than Leeds on the night and it's about time the RFL sorted them out.'"
Most of saints penalties were innocous things like offsides.
Leeds were very niggly.
Punches, grapples (webbs on eastmon was as bad a grapple as you will see) and the chicken wing.
You must admit we were abit ''dirty'' tonight.
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| James Graham was totally marked out of the game today. Every time he got the ball he was going no where. Didnt see the JJB incident but been told it was pretty nasty.
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| jjb tackle was a total disgrace
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| Whether it was deliberate or not the Saints players thought it was deliberate. That and the Senior/Wilkin incident doesn't make for a harmonious England camp come the 4 nations.
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