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| I'm surprised no one has included Offiah
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Are we going with the best players to have played in SL, or the players who have performed best in SL? If it's the latter, I can't see how anyone could pick Johns or Langer at 7.'"
The intention was the players who had played best in SL (bearing in mind the limitations on clubs) but happy for people to interpret it how they wish.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Well done Phil.
You've only named 13 players, have several from Leeds and more than 3 from certain clubs. Other than that, great job. Keep it up.'"
ah, i didnt read the OP, i noticed lots of people putting teams together so included mine.
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| Quote ="Oldham Rhino":1j8dxp6iI meant to pick Horne at 6 and Johns at 7.
I've changed it now.'" :1j8dxp6i Only cos you realised you had 4 Warrington players
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"1 Kris Radlinski
2 Jason Robinson
3 Jamie Lyon
4 Shontayne Hape
5 Lesley Vainikolo
6 Leon Pryce
7 Stacey Jones
8 Karl Harrison
9 Kieron Cunningham
10 Dean Sampson
11 Stephen Kearney
12 Dane Carlaw
13 Andy Farrell
14 Thomas Bosc
15 Eorl Crabtree
16 Ben Westwood
17 Michael Vella'"
I'd say that back 5 picks itself really. Its the forwards I struggled with. Kearney is a good shout though, and Jones at halfback is a good shout, both players I omitted due to not enough games
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I'd say that back 5 picks itself really. Its the forwards I struggled with. Kearney is a good shout though, and Jones at halfback is a good shout, both players I omitted due to not enough games'"
Agreed re the back 5. Went for Jones because he was reasonable quality in his 2 (part) seasons but it also meant it freed up a spot elsewhere for a Saints/Bradford/Wiganer. I'd have thought 9 & 13 pick themselves (with all due respect to Sculthorpe).
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"The intention was the players who had played best in SL (bearing in mind the limitations on clubs) but happy for people to interpret it how they wish.'"
In that case, I'll go with the intention:
Kris Radlinski - Wigan
Jason Robinson - Wigan
Matt Gidley - St Helens
Adam Mogg - Les Catalans
Lesley Vainikolo - Bradford
Scott Hill - Harlequins
Lee Briers - Warrington
Stuart Fielden - Wigan/Bradford
Kieron Cunningham - St Helens
Darren Britt - St Helens
David Solomona - Wakefield/Bradford
Jason Croker - Les Catalans
Peter Gill - London Broncos
Mark McLinden - London Broncos/Harlequins
Stephen Kearney - Hull FC
Michael Wainwright - Warrington/Salford
Michael Vella - Hull KR
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"In that case, I'll go with the intention:
Kris Radlinski - Wigan
Jason Robinson - Wigan
Matt Gidley - St Helens
Adam Mogg - Les Catalans
Lesley Vainikolo - Bradford
Scott Hill - Harlequins
Lee Briers - Warrington
Stuart Fielden - Wigan/Bradford
Kieron Cunningham - St Helens
Darren Britt - St Helens
David Solomona - Wakefield/Bradford
Jason Croker - Les Catalans
Peter Gill - London Broncos
Mark McLinden - London Broncos/Harlequins
Stephen Kearney - Hull FC
Michael Wainwright - Warrington/Salford
Michael Vella - Hull KR'"
Darren Britt is an interesting shout. In a similar vein I'd have liked to include Derek McVey but didn't want to lose Lyon, Cunningham or Pryce.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Darren Britt is an interesting shout. In a similar vein I'd have liked to include Derek McVey but didn't want to lose Lyon, Cunningham or Pryce.'"
I thought he was the pillar around which the Saints side of that era was built, and one of the best props of his generation. Gidley over Lyon was just personal preference and Pryce/Sculthorpe lost out to Cunningham.
I struggled with the back rowers and the bench to be honest, having gone for all first choices in the backs and front row which exhausted the Saints, Wigan and Bradford quotas.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"In that case, I'll go with the intention:
Kris Radlinski - Wigan
Jason Robinson - Wigan
Matt Gidley - St Helens
Adam Mogg - Les Catalans
Lesley Vainikolo - Bradford
Scott Hill - Harlequins
Lee Briers - Warrington
Stuart Fielden - Wigan/Bradford
Kieron Cunningham - St Helens
Darren Britt - St Helens
David Solomona - Wakefield/Bradford
Jason Croker - Les Catalans
Peter Gill - London Broncos
Mark McLinden - London Broncos/Harlequins
Stephen Kearney - Hull FC
Michael Wainwright - Warrington/Salford
Michael Vella - Hull KR'"
Didn't Briers play for saints though, so you may have to get a new 6
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I thought he was the pillar around which the Saints side of that era was built, and one of the best props of his generation. Gidley over Lyon was just personal preference and Pryce/Sculthorpe lost out to Cunningham.
I struggled with the back rowers and the bench to be honest, having gone for all first choices in the backs and front row which exhausted the Saints, Wigan and Bradford quotas.'"
Same for me. second row was tough
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| This thread is ridiculous.
I want my beloved Rhinos in there.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Didn't Briers play for saints though, so you may have to get a new 6'"
Of course. Good call. It'll create a spot for Sean Rudder.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Didn't Briers play for saints though, so you may have to get a new 6'"
I think you may be right, a handful of appearances in 97 before moving on to Warrington...
In which case I'll go for Richard Horne - Hull FC at 7 to partner Scott Hill.
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| Quote ="G1"I know. But I am an anarchist at heart and there's no way the Man Aubert was going to tie me down to his conformist criteria.
I am a free spirit.
Believe.'"
You certainy are a free spirit Gareth. Your choice of Lauititi proves that.
I respect your opinion. But have you kept a close watch on him during matches. He is often lacking condition when he plays. His commitment is less than absolute in most games. However he seems to move up a gear for play offs and Grand Finals. Which tells me he can do it when he wants.
Unfortunately he doesn't do it often enough for me.
Nostalgic Les
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| Quote ="Les75Jean"You certainy are a free spirit Gareth. Your choice of Lauititi proves that.
I respect your opinion. But have you kept a close watch on him during matches. He is often lacking condition when he plays. His commitment is less than absolute in most games. However he seems to move up a gear for play offs and Grand Finals. Which tells me he can do it when he wants.
Unfortunately he doesn't do it often enough for me.
Nostalgic Les'" I love to watch him play.
Yes, he can have days when he doesn't show but he's an overseas player who has been at the same English club for six seasons, playing 4 Grand Finals and winning three.
Its' the stuff of legends. He can validly lay claim to being our greatest ever overseas player and he has done things on the pitch that few others could do.
I think you do him a dis-service. I think we'll look back on him as reverently and nostalgically as previous generations did with Eric Harris and Arthur Clue etc.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Kris Radlinski
Jason Robinson
Jamie Lyon
Paul Newlove
Lesley Vainikolo
Henry Paul
Stacey Jones
Joe Vagana
Keiron Cunningham
Mark Carroll
Stephen Kearney
Andy Farrell
Jason Smith
Adam Mogg
Peter Gill
Dean Sampson
Richie Barnett'"
Psst, Sam - you've 4 Bulls players in there.
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Pfft! Schoolboy error Andy!
Newlove didn't play any SL for the Bulls!
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| What a joke!
How any of the follwoing players can be among the GREATEST Super League players is beyond me. Most people are too busy trying to show their 'knowledge' of the past rather than been realistic:
Mark Carroll
Dean Sampson
Adam Mogg
Scott Hill
Stephen Myler
Eorl Carbtree
Henry Fa'afilli
Clint Newton
Paul King
Joe Westerman
Whilst i understand the criteria means you have to spread it about a bit some of the above are a joke!
I will post mine later - too busy at the moment.
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| Quote ="AL Rhino"What a joke!
How any of the follwoing players can be among the GREATEST Super League players is beyond me. Most people are too busy trying to show their 'knowledge' of the past rather than been realistic:
Mark Carroll
Dean Sampson
Adam Mogg
Scott Hill
Stephen Myler
Eorl Carbtree
Henry Fa'afilli
Clint Newton
Paul King
Joe Westerman
Whilst i understand the criteria means you have to spread it about a bit some of the above are a joke!
I will post mine later - too busy at the moment.'"
Looks to be quite a few representative appearances, dream team selections and leading try scorer awards amongst that lot and 6 of them are current Superleague players.
Your understanding of the criteria is great. It'll be interesting to see your 17 players without any also rans in it.
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| 1. Kris Radlinski - Wigan
2. Lesley Vainikolo - Bradford
3. Jamie Lyon - St Helens
4. Kirk Yeaman - Hull FC
5. Darren Rogers - Castleford Tigers (I’m sure that’s the only club he played for?)
6. Graham Appo - Warrington / Huddersfield
7. Gavin Clinch - Halifax
8. Paul Broadbent - Sheffield
9. James Roby - St Helens
10. Tony Mestrov - Harlequins
11. Craig Richards - Oldham
12. Olivier Elima - Wakefield / Catalan Dragons
13. Scott Murrell - Hull KR (surely you can let me off on the one sub appearance?)
14. Stephen Myler - Salford / Widnes
15. Jason Martin - Paris St German
16. Danny Lee - Gateshead Thunder
17. James Graham - St Helens
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"1. Kris Radlinski - Wigan
2. Lesley Vainikolo - Bradford
3. Jamie Lyon - St Helens
4. Kirk Yeaman - Hull FC
5. Darren Rogers - Castleford Tigers (I’m sure that’s the only club he played for?)
6. Graham Appo - Warrington / Huddersfield
7. Gavin Clinch - Halifax
8. Paul Broadbent - Sheffield
9. James Roby - St Helens
10. Tony Mestrov - Harlequins
11. Craig Richards - Oldham
12. Olivier Elima - Wakefield / Catalan Dragons
13. Scott Murrell - Hull KR (surely you can let me off on the one sub appearance?)
14. Stephen Myler - Salford / Widnes
15. Jason Martin - Paris St German
16. Danny Lee - Gateshead Thunder
17. James Graham - St Helens'"
Darren Rodgers also played for Salford.
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| Quote ="finglas"Darren Rodgers also played for Salford.'"
was a great player though!
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"icon_biggrin.gifOH: was a great player though!'"
Always thought he was poor, but he kept scoring tries in very poor teams.
Was also faster than he looked.
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