I though Smith was great TBH if thats worth anything, however if I was coach he wouldnt be in the side, I'd have sacked him and taken the ht at a IT.

Was that earlier in the season like when Leeds were crowned World Club Champions?

Or after they destroyed Bradford, Hull and St Helens away around Easter?

Or when they were six points clear in the SL after round sixteen?

I'm so glad you didn't feel the need to get on their backs then.

That's a shame. If you get the chance to review it perhaps you'll see why he's used sparingly by coach McClennan in the centre at this point in his fledgling career.



Is Watkins a winger rather than a centre now?



Yes we still need a centre but Smith is (as he always has) giving 100% to the unfamiliar role.

Can't even work out what you are attempting to say.

I was talking about this season BTW.

And i didn't criticise them, i simply said saints would come to the fore and win it.

I'll try and find time later this week.




He was last week yes. He made a really good fist of it. Maybe Mclennan could get him some game time on the wing if he's not ready for the centres, especially if he shows more aplomb on the wing than his team mates. Revolutionary eh?



For this year? Because we're very quietly beating the teams around us and getting ourselves tucked very comfortably in behind Saints, yet again. despite that right centre I keep being told we're so desperately in need of.

I stand by it by the way. it wasn't a criticism of Donald himself (although probably worded that was accidently, but I still maintain if that was on the otherside of the pitch there'd have been no need at all for the video ref.

Not really, if he's a better option than those in front of him but only coach McClennan will be in possession of all the facts needed to make that judgement..




In need of in order to finish second in the WCC? and second to St Helens in the fourth round of the Challenge Cup at home? and second to St Helens (at this point) on the league table?

Perhaps the squad assembled will ultimately be good enough to finish second in the Grand Final also?

Perhaps that will be good enough for some supporters?

It's a shame really that St Helens are also in the same league and ultimately will be the team Leeds' season is likely to be measured against if they get to go the distance this year.



Fair enough.




I saw the two statements above and connected them which I can see from your explanation was my misunderstanding.

at this moment in time i would use watkins as winger rather than a centre. in my humble opinion he is not quite for centre on a regular basis.
i would use him sparingly though,just bring him on gradually.

smith as a centre for me is adequete, no more than that. he makes a good go of it but is not top class there

Tad, I like you!!!!!

i have known that ages, it's the way you look at me

Watkins probably doesn't have the physical presence to excel at centre yet. One of the last times I saw him play left centre however (boxing day) he gave Tony Martin alot of trouble and looked much more solid in defence. Am I wrong in thinking that playing on a different side makes a difference to players, whether it 'should' or 'shouldn't matter, it certainly does IMO (and I've played centre wing at a decent standard for a while).

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Quote ="Gotcha" Get over yourself. You have critisized a damn sight more players in the past than anyone else on here.'" viewtopic.php? ... c&start=60 Quote ="Gotcha"Nope. You are the one spot on, and others blinkered. Hall simply does not have the ability to be a top class winger, with nothing in his armour to suggest otherwise. Potential for future in the pack though. But as a winger he offers no danger what so ever. '"

Gotcha must have missed those 19 tries this season.

No danger

Quote ="Snake Eater"icon_lol.gif viewtopic.php? ... c&start=60 '" Is this the new pastime, dragging up old threads, if it is I will well and truly pull your pants down!! St Helens by plenty Snake Gobbler?

Quote ="Snake Eater"icon_lol.gif viewtopic.php? ... c&start=60 '" Is this the new pastime, dragging up old threads, if it is I will well and truly pull your pants down!! St Helens by plenty Snake Gobbler?

Fook me sideways!

Whats with all the bringing up of old posts recently? Have certain people suddenly realised that they have small c**** and need to compensate elsewhere?

I'm going to bookmark this post and drag it out next year is a futile attempt to try and embarrass you as I also have a very small penis and feel the need to try and put one over on you.

But I will change my user name just before I do so that you don’t instantly know its really me.

You may try but I very rarely change my opinion on people and if I do I publicly call my idry and apologise as I did with Ryan Hall a month or so ago

There are some weird people who actually make it their hobby to bookmark threads in the vain hope that they may be able to use them several months or even years later - there was even one who would cut and paste comments into a database that he kept on each individual user name.

Some of those people should have been treated on the NHS years ago - its a disgrace.

“There’s nowt as strange as folk” as my Grandad would frequently say.

Over the years I have come to realise that Rugby League attracts a disproportionate amount of ‘special’ people (have a look round at the next game you’re at – they’re about 1 in 4, if you don’t spot any ‘special’ folk then you’re probably a bit special yourself).

It only stands to reason that some of them will end up posting on here.

So are we criticising him or supporting him this week?

Supporting him throughout the game, and either praising or criticising afterwards, depending on his performance. Just as with all the other players.

I agree up until the quinns game he was low on confidence and form and any mention of this was warranted imo afterall you can criticise players performace without turning it into a witch hunt.
I am happy that scotty turned it around and his confidence and form have picked up to the standards we all know he can perform and long may it continue.