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| Quote ="DISA"I would like to see that quantified.
Because from what I saw, the majority of the penalties I thought we conceeded were for offside.
That been the case, and I repeat what I have put most times this season, it is completely open to refs interpretation, which is near always inconsistent.'"
There were at least two for unnecessary high shots (Burgess (again) and Diskin. Two were for stripping the ball 2 on 1, One was for obstruction (Senior). That leaves 6 for other offences, I seem to remember 2 fot offside.
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| Quote ="finglas"There were at least two for unnecessary high shots (Burgess (again) and Diskin. Two were for stripping the ball 2 on 1, One was for obstruction (Senior). That leaves 6 for other offences, I seem to remember 2 fot offside.'"
Like Leicester said, that maybe he reacted more to the play the ball because it annoys him. Maybe I reacted more to the offside decisions, because I felt he was only pulling that on one side.
That said, I still think the offside been pulled for was more than you said.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Good performance tonight by the lads.We should've had 70!! Again.well done!!!'"
I think if little Rob had been on the pitch we would had 70 IMO
But credit to sinfield who had a cracker!!
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| Quote ="DISA"Like Leicester said, that maybe he reacted more to the play the ball because it annoys him. Maybe I reacted more to the offside decisions, because I felt he was only pulling that on one side.
That said, I still think the offside been pulled for was more than you said.'"
I remember Diskin in the first half in Hulls "22" on a 1st tackle and someone in the second half, on our line where M Alibert gave the penalty right in front of the posts. They stood out because of the importance of their position and timing. Not as bad as Hull giving away 2 penalties for interference on the last tackle though
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Maybe a season too far in Leed's colours'"
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| Quote ="DISA"You know I have been quite critical of the side this season, but you have gone beyond me.
Earlier in season we were winning games, which IMO the oppossition was much worse than Hull last night.
I thought last night was a terrific performance, were the scoreline actually flattered Hull.
You are correct on the Buderus/Diskin situation. It did not work the last time we tried it with Millard and Diskin, and it does not look right this time. IMO Diskin should not be in the squad.
I dissagree on McGuire, who was simply outstanding last night. Best performance he has put in in last couple of seasons for me. And for me it is simply that both him and Burrow play better when they are not together. I have said that for years, despite winning 3 titles with those halfbacks.
I am a critic of Donald this season, but thought the combination of him and Smith looked superb. Smith is once again proving that you can play the lad anywhere and he will excell. New position, been out for weeks, but put in a top effort.
But like you, I still think we need another forward to see help us regain that title. I was certainly dissapointed in the amount of miss tackles from Kirke last night.'"
Agree completly with you on both points there. Kirke misses too many tackles for me. We look a better pack when Ali's on the park. Our attack looks so much better and he gives us a bit more go forward. Our back row needs improving but HQ know that - hence the move for Eastwood.
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| Quote ="finglas"I remember Diskin in the first half in Hulls "22" on a 1st tackle and someone in the second half, on our line where M Alibert gave the penalty right in front of the posts. They stood out because of the importance of their position and timing. Not as bad as Hull giving away 2 penalties for interference on the last tackle though icon_biggrin.gif'"
Talking of that, i watched the game again last night and you should have heard Phil Clarke let out a huge groan of disapointment when Hull did that. He seemed to be so annoyed and disapointed that Hull had done that as if he was supporting Hull. I couldn't believe what i'd just heard.
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| Quote ="rpw"Talking of that, i watched the game again last night and you should have heard Phil Clarke let out a huge groan of disapointment when Hull did that. He seemed to be so annoyed and disapointed that Hull had done that as if he was supporting Hull. I couldn't believe what i'd just heard.'"
This season Clarke's hatred of Leeds has really sored to new hights.
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| What last night proved to me is that you cannot play with three half backs and maintain fluidity.
I have stated before this side now needs breaking up - part of that would be one of Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire going.
McGuire was outstanding last night as was Webb and these two really gave the attack some buzz - my MOM by some distance was Ali - if he can play like this for the rest of the season we could even finish top.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"What last night proved to me is that you cannot play with three half backs and maintain fluidity.
I have stated before this side now needs breaking up - part of that would be one of Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire going.'"
I am not so sure it needs breaking up. But why can we not use Burrow as the impact interchange, ala Roby, rather than have Diskin?
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| Quote ="rpw"Talking of that, i watched the game again last night and you should have heard Phil Clarke let out a huge groan of disapointment when Hull did that. He seemed to be so annoyed and disapointed that Hull had done that as if he was supporting Hull. I couldn't believe what i'd just heard.'"
I think from an RL point of view its frustrating to see a team do a good defensive set, then cock it all up for no reason on the 5th
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"This season Clarke's hatred of Leeds has really sored to new hights.'"
I don't buy this Clarke hates leeds thing. He provides generally good objective analysis of the game. There are plenty of times when he picks out what leeds do better than any other team in SL, and other things in our favour, but people are too blinkered to hear it
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I don't buy this Clarke hates leeds thing. He provides generally good objective analysis of the game. There are plenty of times when he picks out what leeds do better than any other team in SL, and other things in our favour, but people are too blinkered to hear it'"
I agree, I actualy like the sky line up and think they do a great job
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I don't buy this Clarke hates leeds thing. He provides generally good objective analysis of the game. There are plenty of times when he picks out what leeds do better than any other team in SL, and other things in our favour, but people are too blinkered to hear it'"
Listen close enough and you'll see what I mean. I agree with you generally, and think Clarke gives a decent analysis. But he doesn't seem to like Leeds. Like I said listen close enough and you'll hear what I mean
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I think from an RL point of view its frustrating to see a team do a good defensive set, then cock it all up for no reason on the 5th'"
I understand what you are saying but why let out a big groan of dissapointment then say ''thats the 2nd time now that leeds have had a penalty on the 5th tackle !! '' ?? I'm sorry but a commentator should not be making such comments. I thought he was out of order.
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| thought mcguire was awesome!! he is a quality scrum half.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"What last night proved to me is that you cannot play with three half backs and maintain fluidity.
McGuire was outstanding last night as was Webb and these two really gave the attack some buzz - my MOM by some distance was Ali - if he can play like this for the rest of the season we could even finish top.'"
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I don't buy this Clarke hates leeds thing. He provides generally good objective analysis of the game. There are plenty of times when he picks out what leeds do better than any other team in SL, and other things in our favour, but people are too blinkered to hear it'"
I would agree with that and I particularly like the last bit.
Quote ="DISA"I would like to see that quantified.'"
You don't want much do you.
11 in Total:
Interference at the PTB - 3
High Tackle - 3
Ball Steal - 2
Not Square - 1
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"It's been the story of his season so far.
He doesn't physically have the build or technique to break a tackle, and his confidence looks completely shot.
In fairness to the guy, anytime he has actually received a pass when in an attacking move, he's usually been inches away from the touchline and has had to check back inside.
Maybe a season too far in Leed's colours'"
It's only may and we have contender for biggest load of crap on message board
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| "I have stated before this side now needs breaking up - part of that would be one of Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire going." Unbelievable crap
No we have a new winner by some distance
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| Quote ="DISA"I am not so sure it needs breaking up. But why can we not use Burrow as the impact interchange, ala Roby, rather than have Diskin?'"
One of Roby strengths is his defence - Burrow does not give the defensive stability Roby gives - imagine if Burrow defended in the middle - he would be permenantly concussed.
One of the reasons I think the squad need shaking up is the integration of new players - it must be very difficult coming into a set up where the rest of the players have been playing together for 6/8 years.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"One of Roby strengths is his defence - Burrow does not give the defensive stability Roby gives - imagine if Burrow defended in the middle - he would be permenantly concussed.
One of the reasons I think the squad need shaking up is the integration of new players - it must be very difficult coming into a set up where the rest of the players have been playing together for 6/8 years.'"
I'm not dissagreeing on breaking up certain points. But I don't see the rush for breaking up just 3 players, when all 3 are versatile enough to move elsewhere. Had you mentioned more across the squad then fair enough.
Andy Roby's defence is poor to be honest. He is as much a one trick pony as Burrow, in that his assett is running at people and breaking the tackle.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"What last night proved to me is that you cannot play with three half backs and maintain fluidity.
I have stated before this side now needs breaking up - part of that would be one of Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire going.
McGuire was outstanding last night as was Webb and these two really gave the attack some buzz - my MOM by some distance was Ali - if he can play like this for the rest of the season we could even finish top.'" Don't agree at all.
Why would you get rid of one our best players.They were good enough last season to the main prize,so what's changed this season?
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"What last night proved to me is that you cannot play with three half backs and maintain fluidity.
I have stated before this side now needs breaking up - part of that would be one of Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire going.
McGuire was outstanding last night as was Webb and these two really gave the attack some buzz - my MOM by some distance was Ali - if he can play like this for the rest of the season we could even finish top.'"
Agree totally with that. We look a better team no doubt when Ali's on the park. He's a huge player for us if we are to win anything this year. We miss another top class 2nd rower as i posted earlier.
Don't agree at all with getting rid of one out of mcguire burrow sinfield, but out of interest which one are after getting rid of and why?
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Don't agree at all.
Why would you get rid of one our best players.They were good enough last season to the main prize,so what's changed this season?'"
And 2004 and 2007. Can't see the sense in it tbh at all... i get the feeling he'd get rid of burrow which would be laughable.
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