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| Quote ="Swarcliffe Rhino"Quality has been going downhill for years.'"
True but they are more plentiful than ever.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Buderus doesn't compliment Diskin's style at all... he calls it s[ihi[/it.
A very strange Hetherington/McClennan signing altogether unless they see Diskin as a potential second rower?'"
I never really get the diskin 2nd row thing. He is a bit lightweight for me, and not used to carting the ball up
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I never really get the diskin 2nd row thing. He is a bit lightweight for me, and not used to carting the ball up'"
While I never got the signing of an expensive 80 minute hooker who does exactly the same thing as Diskin does already (only quicker and more accurately) leaving Diskin to do what exactly? Play back up? Thank gawd Buderus picked up those injuries.
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| Quote ="tvoc"While I never got the signing of an expensive 80 minute hooker who does exactly the same thing as Diskin does already (only quicker and more accurately) leaving Diskin to do what exactly? Play back up? Thank gawd Buderus picked up those injuries.'"
Somebody must have modelled it on the Cunningham/Roby formation,but did not realise they play a different type of game,which makes it more difficult to defend against.
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| Quote ="Vic Mackey"Yes I am, but only if it's a means to an end
I did post that before you said you were open minded - still at least 60% of the southstand did boo Donald, Peacock and Senior in their first season - personally I'm happy to give Buderus at least half a season to settle in.'" That's another 4 games then.
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| Quote ="finglas"That's another 4 games then.'"
I was more think of him having played for about half a season - not sat in the stands watching
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| Quote ="tvoc"While I never got the signing of an expensive 80 minute hooker who does exactly the same thing as Diskin does already (only quicker and more accurately) leaving Diskin to do what exactly? Play back up? Thank gawd Buderus picked up those injuries.'"
Maybe they want rid? It does strike as strange ploy. there is no doubt that Buderus on paper is a better option than Diskin, but they are very similar, and not a pair like Cunningham/Roby.
Having said that, the PTB this season seem to be significantly slower than last season, maybe this is being slowed by refs/coaches to allow our gamke to become less focussed on quick plays, and more focused on skill.
If so, the likes of Roby could find their effectiveness cut dramatically.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Maybe they want rid? It does strike as strange ploy. there is no doubt that Buderus on paper is a better option than Diskin, but they are very similar, and not a pair like Cunningham/Roby.
Having said that, the PTB this season seem to be significantly slower than last season, maybe this is being slowed by refs/coaches to allow our gamke to become less focussed on quick plays, and more focused on skill.
If so, the likes of Roby could find their effectiveness cut dramatically.'" Roby didn't seem to find his effectiveness cut dramatically in the 2 matches against Leeds.
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| Quote ="finglas"Roby didn't seem to find his effectiveness cut dramatically in the 2 matches against Leeds.'"
Roby even scores Cunningham's tries V Leeds these days.
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| Quote ="rpw"Cheers.................Roby + Cunningham compliment each other, not really sure Doskin and Buderus do...but time will tell, hope i'm wrong.'" thats why leeds where testing out having them both playing at once, one either side of the pitch, at the start of the year.
but as our forwards have gone hiding at the minute, its not the best opportunity to carry a hooker in the second row. even i do think diskin would go well in the second row, since he seems to likes playing 'look at me i'm hard'*
*for those who don't know, this is where you try bump as many defenders off as possible in a row/game. so rather then breaking the first tackle, and then passing to support players or going forward, you turn around and run straight at another defender, see if you can bump them off too.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"He needs to get much better IMO – at the moment he offers nothing more than Disko and TBH Matt was a better player in the first couple of games of the season (although, like the rest of the Leeds squad, his form has dropped off of late)'"
i think he offers more than disco out of dummy half already mate!! i also have been impressed with his defence.
for mine he was probably our best against salford(but that wasnt hard)
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"i think he offers more than disco out of dummy half already mate!! i also have been impressed with his defence.
for mine he was probably our best against salford(but that wasnt hard)'"
When he came on against Salford he lead the kick chase every time. The guy played his nuts off. His little break was a good play and we ill see that more often in the games to come. He was constantly talking and organising the defence. Buderus will be great for us.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Buderus will be great for us.'"
So he should be.
He should also be able to platt snot, for the amount of coin he's on.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"So he should be.
He should also be able to platt snot, for the amount of coin he's on.
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and how much is he on?loads of people seem to know what he earns but i think it's balls. people surmise how much he is on
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and how much is he on?loads of people seem to know what he earns but i think it's balls. people surmise how much he is on'"
Million pounds a year. Honest. It's why Smith won't re-sign. Thinks he should get same. Donald doesn't. He's happy with his half mill.
True story.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and how much is he on?loads of people seem to know what he earns but i think it's balls. people surmise how much he is on'"
£4,000,263.45 per game.
True story.
Seriously though, I doubt he's over for the weather. And time will only tell if he will become a good, bad or indifferent Leeds player. However if he does fall into the latter categories, that's bad enough. But then when you consider value for money that could make it a whole lot worse. For example, consider Brett Mullins and Shane Millard. Both ozzies who didn't set the world alight in a Leeds shirt, well were frankly awful and both stayed for just 1 year IIRC. Now which stands out as the worse signing? You hear the Mullins references alot, not so much the Millard ones.
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| i think GH is just to tight to go silly! thats why others have left. i doubt very much that he is on more than peacock,sinfield etc
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and how much is he on?loads of people seem to know what he earns but i think it's balls. people surmise how much he is on'"
i agree, the fans go on saying "he is on this, he is on that" just presuming he is over here for the Money. I suspect Buderus has made a lot of money playing for the Knights, maybe some Aussie's come over here for the experience, culture and chapter in the familys life. Yes most come over for the £££££ but not all do. The fans can only speculate.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"The fans can only speculate.'"
Yup.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"i agree, the fans go on saying "he is on this, he is on that" just presuming he is over here for the Money. I suspect Buderus has made a lot of money playing for the Knights, maybe some Aussie's come over here for the experience, culture and chapter in the familys life. Yes most come over for the £££££ but not all do. The fans can only speculate.'"
I imagine that he is over for the money, and will probably have got a decent increase for coming here. He may not be paid as much as some at Leeds and SL, but he won't have taken a pay cut.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I imagine that he is over for the money, and will probably have got a decent increase for coming here. He may not be paid as much as some at Leeds and SL, but he won't have taken a pay cut.'"
So Buderus got an increase on $400,000 and is on less than some at Leeds?
I doubt that.
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| Quote ="Kifaru"So Buderus got an increase on $400,000 and is on less than some at Leeds?
I doubt that.'"
I don't know what he earns now, or what he may have earned in the past, I just think it is naive to think that someone wouldn't want something in return for moving him and his family to the other side of the world.
Oh yeah, it must be the prestige of playing for Leeds
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I don't know what he earns now, or what he may have earned in the past, I just think it is naive to think that someone wouldn't want something in return for moving him and his family to the other side of the world.
Oh yeah, it must be the prestige of playing for Leeds'" just because he's moved, doesn't mean he hasn't taken a pay cut. it more likely that leeds offered more then Newcastle (or around the same, and he fancied a complete change), however both will have offered him less then he was on before.
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| I just hope Buderus isn't going to be one of those players that we never see play.
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