www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo Hanley try.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo Hanley try.

similar to the newton voluntary tackle, then sinfield stealing the ball 1 on 1 then being penalised....

Just to clarify ...



but, in the notes ...



So nobody (Webb) can be "placed onside" under this law, its possibly a matter of the perceived advantage having passed (see earlier post).

Clearly a case of "Let's Learn The Laws Week" up at Carnage .... Then try our raft of new knowledge out whenever Leeds are playing.

Given the amount of blantant used-ever-week rules that are missed during the game .... Last weekend's laughable example was the penalty against Leeds for not playing the ball properly, proceeded by at least three of the Saints players on the first set-of-six after the penalty DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING of rolling the ball between their legs and NOT touching it with their foot as the rules clearly state .... It beggars belief that this rule has suddenly just seems to have been plucked out of the air to use. Why now ? Why hasn't been applied before (I bet there are other examples this season where it as happend)

Why people keep looking at Hanley's tries I don't know. The game changes, the rules change (How many times do you see tries scored from the resulting scrum off a 40-20 nowadays?). It IS a rule, has been for some time now. Get over it and move on. We've all been on the receiving end of a few costly decisions. It's the way you deal with it in the next game that counts.

Someone's a bad loser.




I'm not into big boys. It seems you are judging by who you hang out with from your above post.



You can go collect your dummy from the floor now.



Hi there softcock.

Someone is now cooling his head for 48 hours

Others may follow

It was the correct decision though, get over it

Good morning to you too sir.

Was that when Jones-Buchanan was not stood square facing North - South when playing the ball? St Helens weren't guilty of the same offence or was there another Leeds indiscretion that I missed?



Care to name any? I can't remember seeing any thus far and there's a good reason for that. Breaks are hard enough to come by these days so what are the chances of one occurring at the precise rare moment that an attacking player is still stood in the defensive line, where that player immediately joins the attacking move and involves himself in a try? That's a lot of ducks needed to line up for that to occur. We probably won't see another one all season.

As somebody else pointed out doesn't it happen every single time that a full back makes a break from a kick down field?

While you're asking for examples - how about the reverse (given that controversial refereeing decisions are more likely to stick in the memory than support play). I for one can't remember [uever[/u seeing this rule enforced in my 20ish years of watching league...and yet many of the greatest support players in the game (Edwards, Hanley, Joint) have done exactly what Webb did for there whole careers.

he's right about hanley though perp!! he stood in that postition every game he played in and it worked for him too. i remember as a kid been coached that. a great trick in the support play book.

its as old as the hills

feeding is still a penalty but the ball goes in the second row every time without fail. are they gonna give a penalty for that next week?????

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Were any of the full backs colleagues stood on the wrong side at the preceding play the ball?



I'm asking for examples because people have suggested this is a common occurrence. Without those examples do they have a case for complaint when last night saw the correct decision awarded by the match officials?

I can think of an example

Hull KR Saints, Wellens in a similar situation to Webb, result no try, if sky sports still has that refs blog thing from last few years you will find it there

Irrelevant. A rule is a rule. Get over the last 20 years and start watching this years games

It may be that Leeds have been running offensive plays whereby one of their players stays in the defensive line.
Such a scenario can help disrupt a teams defensive pattern, and creat gaps to exploit.

The full time refs will have no doubt picked up on this in post match analysis and been looking out for such incidents.

Hanley was indeed a master of standing offside, and many fans used to complain about it at the time. Hence why we all remember that he used to do this.

The decision was correct according to the letter of the law.
The unfortunate thing from our point of view was that Burrow had two other players to whom he could have passed - Senior or McGuire - though Webb was in the best position.
Let's hope we don't get caught out by this in the future.
Roll on Monday & the opportunity to put this game behind us.

First of all I don't recall the incident but how is it similar to last night?

Oh I see it's similar because the try was correctly disallowed.

Thank you for that, at least you tried to help the disbelievers.

People wanted examples of when that rule has been enforced, that was an example, cheers.

I think it happens a lot when the full back makes a half break and then plays the ball quickly.

But

What I was really thinking of (and admittedly it's not a direct comparison) when the full back's colleagues move into a "supporting position" in anticipation of the full back overtaking them (and playing them on side), they often get in a good position without trying to get onside first are they...taking any part in the game or attempting in any way to influence the course of the game? (i.e. the falling foul of the same rule as Webb did)

I'd say they are...so how pedantic do we want our refs to be...?

By the way check out where [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhGEldMGoSMChris Joynt stands at the final play the ball on this rather famous try[/url...did he ever retire 10 meters...?

I'm just waiting for the flood gates to open the other way now. I'm not holding my breath though.

To prevent any mis-understanding on my part would you like to give me a specific example of this practise that I may review and give an opinion on?



Is that the one where no St Helens players were stood in the Bradford defensive line when Sculthorpe got up to play the ball?