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| G1, what was your opinion of McGuire tonight?
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| It is clear you cannot get sucess just by buying players, you need to develop a decent youth policy and then add the odd high quality import, alone the lines of TS. Think of Brent Webb, Scott Donald and Ali. The super league should not be a home for overpaid poor NRL players. This i understand is one of the complaints about Wigan they are just getting second rate Aussies at the cost of young home grown players.
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| Quote ="Above & Beyond"G1, what was your opinion of McGuire tonight?'" Thought he played well. We look much better with him, Burrow and Sinfield all out there.
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| Quote ="John D H"Hooker is the most overrated position in terms of importance in the modern game.'"
Not Really.
It depends how a coach wants the hooker to play.
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| Quote ="G1"Thought he played well. We look much better with him, Burrow and Sinfield all out there.'"
I thought it was between Rob, Danny and Ablett for MOM tonight.
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| Quote ="G1"
If our forwards, halves and hookers (or stand in hookers) play like they did tonight then you could throw Mal Menninga and Gene Miles at us and it wouldn't matter.'" I agree considering both must now be in their 40's
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| Quote ="tvoc"He doesn't necessarily have to come from the NRL .'" We could make a bid for Cameron Phelps, he's not getting in the Wigan team.
Oh, and do I really need to add.........................
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"I agree considering both must now be in their 40's
'" yes, but we're desperate for experience in the centres....................apparently.
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| Quote ="G1"Thought he played well. We look much better with him, Burrow and Sinfield all out there.'"
I agree mate having burrow back gives mcguire and sinny a lot more scope to impose themselve's more and is the "The golden triangle" imo especially when we play without a recognised 9.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"You missed out Ablett, who IMO deserved his MOM award tonight. Shows what some of the fekwits on here know!!!'"
yeah he got the leeds MOM post game i believe. great night out in the 2nd row and more games he needs there. Such good work rate.
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Why so touchy and aggressive.
BTW, Internet Warrior, if you're going to get personal and aggressive best not to do so with someone who knows you were sat in Section B, row H of the North Stand tonight.
I'll give you a chance to call me muppet to my face next time your kid takes you to the match. Then he can carry you home.'"
pot kettle black.
haha call people ts/muppets and morons but not take it??? know your type. take your word on the seat number not sure at all. If you knew who I was you should have said hi instead of waiting to till hometime on the internet before saying hi.
ps. cheap seats their boss!!! prefer the ones closer to half way.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"
pot kettle black.
haha call people ts/muppets and morons but not take it??? know your type. take your word on the seat number not sure at all. If you knew who I was you should have said hi instead of waiting to till hometime on the internet before saying hi.
ps. cheap seats their boss!!! prefer the ones closer to half way.'" I am closer to half way.
I'd no real desire to speak to you in person but I'll make sure i say hi next time, don't worry about that.
I don't recall ever calling you a fekkwitt because I don't recall you ever behaving like a fekkwitt before tonight. We've disagreed on issues before but I reckon my post had you lost for words so I'll take the moron response as a compliment and a victory for me.
yay.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"You missed out Ablett, who IMO deserved his MOM award tonight. Shows what some of the fekwits on here know!!!'" He did deserve his MOM and it does indeed show what the fekkwitts on here know.
Except I didn't miss him out because he didn't start in the threequarters.
I'd never be that sloppy but you make a good point nonetheless.
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| Quote ="G1"You didn;t think I would let tonight's game given the result and the line-ups go without it having any bearing on our discussion?
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Not for the tiniest of split seconds.
Quote ="G1"If this mystery signing we must make doesn;t come from the NRL where will he come from then?'"
From another SL club but more likely to come from the NRL being the cheaper option for a short term fix.
Quote ="G1"Gibson and Watkins will most likely face their sternest test next week against a Saints threequarter line with at least 3 of their players fro their Academy.
If our forwards, halves and hookers (or stand in hookers) play like they did tonight then you could throw Mal Menninga and Gene Miles at us and it wouldn't matter.'"
Perhaps it's my changed view on life recently or maybe it's the time of season and it's always been like this but I'm finding SL truly uninspiring at the moment. It's probably just me though.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Perhaps it's my changed view on life recently or maybe it's the time of season and it's always been like this but I'm finding SL truly uninspiring at the moment. It's probably just me though.'"
I think the game is changing. The big change being no relegation. Teams dont have to worry about winning every match and spend time developing rising stars. Yes they make more mistakes but you can also give them to get more game time to develop their skills.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"why?'"
Because I reckon anyone half decent can play hooker these days to a decent standard. Roby is considered one of the best hookers in the league but all he is really is a failed half back who's quick out of dummy half. Same goes for Scott Moore, Craig Wing, Ryan Hudson, Mick Monaghan (in his Manly days) New Zealand won a world cup with Thomas Lulueai (sp) playing hooker, and they even won a Tri-Nations with Motu Tony at hooker.
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| What was your pie count Gareth?
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| Quote ="G1".....a threequarter from the NRL?
Pat Richards NRL signed
Amos Roberts NRL signed
Phil Bailey NRL signed
George Carmont NRL signed
Young lad Ainscough Academy product
Lee Smith Academy product
Ryan Hall Academy product
Ashley Gibson Academy product
Kallum Watkins Academy product
Scott Donald NRL sgned
TVOC, poker Guru, anyone?'"
I'd be thrilled if Gibson and Watkins prove you 100% correct this year. Especially Gibson who showed soem really classy touches (I actually feel pretty bad saying the kids crocked - I would love to be proved 100% wrong on this as well).
If you want a reason why we should sign a top quality centre (and I mean "top" quality), if one is available and if we can afford him, then this is it. With that amount of posession and that opposition, with Senior and another player of his attacking class on the other side of the pitch, we should have scored over 50. Also when Smith moved to right centre late on he was well out of position for Hock's try.
Not a convincing argument after such a good team display. And I fully agree that we don't need to sign a player like Carmont etc. when we have those two kids available.
BTW, what the hell are Wigan doing recruiting wise? They seem to have bought an empty NRL barrell and scraped the bottom of it simply to fill spaces in their senior academy? Baffling.
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| I think this thread demonstrates the folly of mixing cheap red wine with what looks like an excess of e numbers in Wilson's Pies!
Our first half performance last night was excellent and more of the same against Saints will go down very well. The younger guys performed well and the Team's future is looking good.
That said, as the Manley game proved, you can never have too much talent, or that we can thumb our noses at the NRL.
Thank feck it's Gary who is Chief Exec. and not some of our more irascible fans.
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| Quote ="Oldham Rhino"What was your pie count Gareth?'" Regrettably low. In fact, nil. As was the pint count.
Got a swollen gland and on anti-bio-tics so was feeling very ropey at match. In fact, nearly went hone to watch on telly. Also had the s[ihi[/its. Might've been the four packets of oreo's I ate after a lunchtime trip to Costco.
On the plus side, the swollen glands got me my testicles felt when I visited the Dr's in the morning. Granted, Mr Hassan is not usually my cup of tea but I got some action nonetheless.
Now, what were we discussing?
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Perhaps it's my changed view on life recently or maybe it's the time of season and it's always been like this but I'm finding SL truly uninspiring at the moment. It's probably just me though.'" No shag. I'd felt like that up to the WCC. I enjoyed the WCC and I enjoyed last night.
Remember, it all gets better in July so don't go making any hasty Judgments.
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| Quote ="G1"Got a swollen gland'"
Talk about your feeder line...
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"
BTW, what the hell are Wigan doing recruiting wise? They seem to have bought an empty NRL barrell and scraped the bottom of it simply to fill spaces in their senior academy? Baffling.'" I suspect another defeat or two last night and Noble will have all the excuse he needs to drop Ainscough and Tomkins and put Phelps and Smith back in the team.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Talk about your feeder line...
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| Quote ="G1"I suspect another defeat or two last night and Noble will have all the excuse he needs to drop Ainscough and Tomkins and put Phelps and Smith back in the team.'"
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| Quote ="G1".....a threequarter from the NRL?
Pat Richards NRL signed
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Phil Bailey NRL signed
George Carmont NRL signed
Young lad Ainscough Academy product
Lee Smith Academy product
Ryan Hall Academy product
Ashley Gibson Academy product
Kallum Watkins Academy product
Scott Donald NRL sgned
TVOC, poker Guru, anyone?'"
Because rugby league is a squad game and Leeds could benefit from the extra depth. Watkins is still only 17 and it wouldn't do any harm to have him as a squad player for a couple of seasons, he would still get a lot of games.
When Kevin Penny came through at Warrington a lot of people were complaining that we had signed Chris Hicks, saying why would we need to bring him in when we had a better player coming through the ranks, but now Penny has gone through a sticky patch I'm glad we've got Hicks, it takes the pressure off so now Tony Smith can work with him behind the scenes and bring him back into the side at the right pace rather than exposing him every week.
Your point looks valid in the context of last night but Leeds will have to beat better sides than Wigan, if they get a couple of injuries in the outside backs and have fresh Academy lads in there then Saints beat you with Gidley and Gardner doing damage, people will come right back on saying we need to sign another NRL outside back.
Not trying to argue against the Leeds approach to bringing talent through, which is a shining beacon for English sport never mind Super League, but it wouldn't do any harm to get one quality NRL back in...Joel Monaghan, Justin Hodges etc.
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