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| Quote ="G1"You didn't need to see it. The ref could clearly be heard on a number of occasions warning KR players about not making the ten, not having 2 feet behind the line when defending. When Leeds committed such offenses it was zero tolerance time. When HKR did them it was a chat on the run. I don't care what policy refs adopt but would like them to adopt the same for both sides.'"
But maybe the HKR players actually listened to what he said and corrected their position while our players just carried on regardless and got done for it. I think Diskin made a break in the first half which was directly caused because a HKR player was offside, the ref called him on it and he pulled out of the challenge rather than giving away the pen.
We were pulled a lot initially for offside in the first half. We exacerbated that situation by coughing up possession as well. That gave HKR the majority of possession which means that you're defending more and more likely to give away penalties for offside.
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| Quote ="tvoc"What difference would that have made in this instance?
The correct decision would still have been, 'no try' due to Webster knocking on with his left hand.'"
You're probably right. SL referees ask the VR what to check for anway so it's the same thing.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"You're probably right. SL referees ask the VR what to check for anway so it's the same thing.'"
I think they do it in Union as quite often the ball is invisible over the line. Then it's the ref saying I'm going to give this unless you find me an infringement that I'm missed.
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| one HKR try came when the ball was knocked out of halls hand to another HKR player who was in front of his team mate. accidental offside at best.
mcguire was cynically tripped seconds before the HKR player was sinbinned for holding down.mcguire is heard complaining about the trip
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| I thought it was funny when the Webster no try/Knock on was described by Stevo as an optical illusion.Those Clowns at Sky Were so desperate for the descision to go HKR's way. Optical illusion i ask you
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"TBH I wouldn't really say that any of the penalties given against us were incorrect.
The only question is whether HKR were offending as well. But as Sky, like everyone else, follows the play there's no way of knowing whether we were doing anything differently from them.'"
He'd told Sinny he'd penalised us for not having both feet behind the line. Look at their defensive line around the 58 minute mark. There isn't a Rovers player with both feet behind the line. I don't doubt we were transgressing but he wasn't applying the rules to both sides, which is what you can quite clearly hear Sinfield tell him. Poor display from Bentham but it gave us a good workout for next week.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"one HKR try came when the ball was knocked out of halls hand to another HKR player who was in front of his team mate. accidental offside at best.
mcguire was cynically tripped seconds before the HKR player was sinbinned for holding down.mcguire is heard complaining about the trip'"
Richie Mathers would be looking at 2 matches for that trip.
I have to say that I thought Leeds were creeping up quick, but given we have the best line speed in the league HKR must have been only 5 meters from the ruck to get up as quick as they did. It's fine to penalise offside but there were plenty of time KR were way off with no penalty to Leeds.
Also, very, very inconsistant reffing of when a player is held - both arms off the ground still moving forward is not held, yet Diskin got pinged twice for finishing off a guy in this position.
The Webster try was a much a try as Donalds' effort in the first half. If you are going to give "benefit of the doubt" there was enough there to award Donald's try as well (especially if we want to reward good attacking play Stevo ).
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| Once again our enjoyment of the game was hindered by constant whistle blowing – I’m guessing that Cummings has the word out that that the guys in the middle need to stamp the authority early in the season.
I’m sure it’ll calm down once we get further into the season but for the time being it very frustrating to watch.
Oh and by the way did I mention I was on TV last night?
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| Quote ="Lance Cobra"You try bending the rules you get caned, if Sinfield is persistantly offside he should get persistantly penalised, which tonight for a change he did.'"
It would be nice if the referee's were consistent when calling for offside. There were many occasions when Hull KR didn't have two feet on the line.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"
Oh and by the way did I mention I was on TV last night?'"
Why not sit in front of it to watch it like the rest of us ?
What was it like next to the plant and the goldfish ?
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Also, very, very inconsistant reffing of when a player is held - both arms off the ground still moving forward is not held, yet Diskin got pinged twice for finishing off a guy in this position.'"
I do agree with you that Diskin was very harshly judged for at least two penalties. The first one I remember was one of the very first penalties given against us where he completed a tackle. Stevo described him as "turtling" the HKR player but Diskin simply drove into him with one motion. I personally feel that penalty was mainly the result of crowd pressure as they were screaming louder and louder for infringements.
The second penalty was far worse. Diskin had half completed the tackle and the HKR player was on his knees. The ref hadn't called the tackle complete, the HKR player had both arms free and looked likely to offload. Diskin completed the tackle and Beetham gave a penalty against him for it, basically saying he was interfering after the tackle was complete.
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| The Webster no try was a clear knock on IMO, the ball clearly deviated. Plus I think the penalty given against Diskin the lead up to their try was very harsh.
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| Quote ="John D H"The Webster no try was a [size=100clear [/sizeknock on IMO, the ball clearly deviated. Plus I think the penalty given against Diskin the lead up to their try was very harsh.'"
Wouldn't say it was clear - I've watched it back a few times now and I'm still not convinced.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Wouldn't say it was clear - I've watched it back a few times now and I'm still not convinced.'"
Good job you being convinced matters not a jot. Ian Smith clearly thought so and he was the only one who counts.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Wouldn't say it was clear - I've watched it back a few times now and I'm still not convinced.'"
It was a clear knock on at a certain slow-mo speed but not so clear the slower it went.
Had the video ref not being there I'd expect the try would have been given and in that sense KR were unlucky.
Morgan however is a big, big advocate of having video officials at every game so it doesn't leave him much room for manoeuvre in the feeling hard done by department.
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