To be fair to him, he has delivered some big names over time, some have worked out, others have not.

You can't argue with Webb, Peacock, Buderus, Ellis, Lauiti'iti as big name signings.

He has also delivered (or helped to deliver) a sustainable business model and financial stability off the field and one of the most successful periods in the club's history on the field.

Hetherington Out!

Oh yes agreed.. i'm not doubting his excellent leadership. We owe him a great deal of thanks. It just made me laugh because that's what he usually says.

This truly is.. The school of old.

And how long will you be able to continue in your current job compared to the longevity, or lack of it, of a profesional rugby player,of either code.
Making money while you can is sometimes everything

You were robbed.

And they're both positives but in terms of squad building I doubt Leeds' plans are any different to Wigan's. The difference maybe that when Wigan identify a problem position they tend to fill it even if that costs money.

Hetherington's job is (or should be) to maximise the clubs potential and that includes on the field. Ultimately he will be judged on results not whether the club made a huge profit.

Wigan don't have enough money to fill all their problem positions.

Which positions are their problem ones?

Judging by the league position, they start at 1 and end at coach. Seriously I think they need major surgery before they can be consistently competitive, and pretty much all over the park.

It's interesting that they are still in the cup, as this probably represents the best opportunity for success for teams who lack consistency and talent.

So which players are their problems?

On paper Wigan have as capable a squad as any in SL and on their day they walloped St Helens.

Getting consistent performances out of them is where their problem lies and that's more an attitude and coaching issue for mine.

Not by his shareholders but, regardless, he's delivered on all fronts during the last 5 years and he was building towards that for about four or five years before then.

One of which would be himself?

I think so, but certainly not the major one.

Is Caddick in it to make money really?

He seems happy to bank roll the union club as a hobby and I wouldn't have thought anyone really takes on the ownership of a sports club in order to make a fortune.

I doubt his tolerance to losses would be as high with RL but I wonder if its as much about the kudos as the brass.

I'm a big admirer of Gary Hetherington, always have been. From his wholehearted efforts as a player, to his formation of a player's union and starting a club from nothing in South Yorkshire while selling double glazing and running fund raising marathons to make signings. But at times I think he acts as if he is still the Chairman at the Eagles rather than running what should be the biggest club in the ESL.

Which is why no-one remembers Alf Davis ... Nothing much to show for it in the trophy cabinet, but 'We've got the best lottery in the league'

Good old Alf and his "pop in for a chat and a cuppa" speech...

If the attitude of the players is a problem then surely there is something wrong with Wigan's recruitment?

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Losing games they ought to win could be as a result of any number of things rather than solely recruitment.

Are Wigan not the biggest club in the whole Universe??

Agreed the two are linked you will not make a profit in RL without a winning side - simple - your revenue streams are driven by success on the field - no one wants to entertain serious clients to second class entertainment - winning on the field is everything - the rest will spin off that - sort that out and you will have a successful business - especially that given the salary cap - the marginal cost of winning is zero.

According to Titchy Tinyrod - 9 out of 10 Aussies say their NRL players prefer Wigan to any other Championship winning teams.

thats cos 9/10 of the wigan team are from the NRL